The American Football Thread

Bloozcrooz · 10-19-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Yes that game was at Candlestick. 9ers would be lights out with any above average qb. Smith doesn't have the excuses anymore, its time for him to elevate his game or become a career backup.

If things dont shape up in Philly the 9ers could have a shot at aquiring Vick. But he's already 32 years old or 31 not sure if they want to go that route.. And you know im not so sure Vince Young doesnt deserve another shot at QB'ing either. I dont know, we all know what a treasure a good QB is to have in the NFL. Been part of my Cowboys problem since AIKMAN retired.
Oh and as far as the Saints they are done. No deffense and no Shawn Peyton is a recipe for disaster. Brees cant do it all. To bad the 9ers cant get they're hands on him

Forward To Death · 10-19-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic

I'm laughing.

Great substance, highly-informed and well-thought-out.

But no really, I don't think you could ever back this argument with much more than your typical "i think they're overrated and this team is clearly better".

Teams go up and down from and at this point San Fran has proved they can win vs. high-scoring offenses.

Dispute the point or don't, because to me, your response really just seems like you want to disagree, but can't formulate an intelligent response.

Bloozcrooz · 10-19-2012, 01:36 PM

Forward To Death · 10-19-2012, 01:54 PM

Also wanted to debunk this... Thing:

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

I haven't been following them closely enough I guess then. I did watch them put up a paltry 3 points against the giants, they barely squeaked out a TD last night. 49ers are consistently awful in the red zone.

The fact that they have to put in colin kaeperick to give to give their offense any sort of life isn't reassuring to me.

Their D is good but have they had a comeback yet?

I gave you the proof they can beat high-powered offenses, but this is just an arbitrary response. No comebacks? Get real, if I told you he came back to win every game your next post would undoubtedly include references to Cinderella and the clock striking midnight.

Also, did it ever occur to you that lately, Smith hasn't exactly been the type to throw 3 picks on top of no TDs? Did it also occur to you that usually when your offense blows that hard, the other team usually puts up more than 26? Be real.

debaserr · 10-19-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic

I don't think their Defense is THAT great as to never need a comeback win from the QB. You need to be able make some clutch scoring drives if you want a ring.

It's the same reason why they aren't the best team. The Giants are obviously better (right now), as well as a few other teams with top 10 QBs.

I thought it was pretty funny.

I laid out my points a while back, I don't think I care to say much more on the subject. A game manager hasn't won the Super Bowl since Dilfer on the Ravens, and the game has changed quite a bit since 2001.

We get it, you're a fan, cool beans. Maybe you can look past some shortcomings and feel all cuddly inside; that mindset doesn't work for the rest of us.

Forward To Death · 10-19-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic

I thought it was pretty funny.

I laid out my points a while back, I don't think I care to say much more on the subject. A game manager hasn't won the Super Bowl since Dilfer on the Ravens, and the game has changed quite a bit since 2001.

We get it, you're a fan, cool beans. Maybe you can look past some shortcomings and feel all cuddly inside; that mindset doesn't work for the rest of us.

This is ridiculous. You're latching onto a term and trying to spin it as something substantial. Game-manager, what is that? It sounds like a term ESPN came up with so that pretentious couch-coaches like you can recycle it.

Fan? I can't stand the 49ers. I think Jim Harbaugh is a douchebag, but a good-coaching douchebag. I'm calling you out on your bull****, simple as that.

Sparky · 10-19-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Also wanted to debunk this... Thing:

I gave you the proof they can beat high-powered offenses, but this is just an arbitrary response. No comebacks? Get real, if I told you he came back to win every game your next post would undoubtedly include references to Cinderella and the clock striking midnight.

Also, did it ever occur to you that lately, Smith hasn't exactly been the type to throw 3 picks on top of no TDs? Did it also occur to you that usually when your offense blows that hard, the other team usually puts up more than 26? Be real.

Look shawty, this is football not debate class. Just because a team wins one game isn't indicative of anything. The ****ing vikings slayed the 49ers does that mean the vikings are the best?

IF you told me smith won every game with a comeback i'd go wow, what a cool qb. But he's never done that once thats all im saying.

Your "doesnt it occur to you" statements are weird. Smith has thrown picks in each loss, just not the 3 number. Whats the 26 point statistic when offenses blow hard? That was news to me, or it never occurred to me

Forward To Death · 10-19-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

Look shawty, this is football not debate class. Just because a team wins one game isn't indicative of anything. The ****ing vikings slayed the 49ers does that mean the vikings are the best?

IF you told me smith won every game with a comeback i'd go wow, what a cool qb. But he's never done that once thats all im saying.

Your "doesnt it occur to you" statements are weird. Smith has thrown picks in each loss, just not the 3 number. Whats the 26 point statistic when offenses blow hard? That was news to me, or it never occurred to me

I mentioned several games, actually. You've mentioned two, one of whoch they won so it's completely moot.

I'm actually on the opposite side here, brah. I'm saying one game doesn't mean ****, while using 4 games' sample size vs. your one.

Decide wtf you're arguing about and get back to me, son.

FRED HALE SR. · 10-19-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

Look shawty, this is football not debate class. Just because a team wins one game isn't indicative of anything. The ****ing vikings slayed the 49ers does that mean the vikings are the best?

IF you told me smith won every game with a comeback i'd go wow, what a cool qb. But he's never done that once thats all im saying.

Your "doesnt it occur to you" statements are weird. Smith has thrown picks in each loss, just not the 3 number. Whats the 26 point statistic when offenses blow hard? That was news to me, or it never occurred to me

I'm just surprised there is someone defending Alex Smith, the guy isn't exactly Dan Marino. Hes been a huge disappointment since he came into the league. One thing to note he doesn't pass as much as anybody else either so his small sample size should be judged even harsher when it comes to his game management.

Sparky · 10-19-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

I mentioned several games, actually. You've mentioned two, one of whoch they won so it's completely moot.

I'm actually on the opposite side here, brah. I'm saying one game doesn't mean ****, while using 4 games' sample size vs. your one.

Decide wtf you're arguing about and get back to me, son.

I'm saying they can't beat a high powered offense. Green bay will beat them. They didn't on opening week, it took green bay a while to get back in sync.

They beat the bills who gives a **** (in my opinion)

I'm making the point that games don't matter as much as execution, and 49ers offense is lacking in that consistently. It will catch up to them even if it hasn't yet.

COLin ****ing Kapernick is who they put in for an explosive play. Aight, hows that for point. ****ing kapernick.