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Bloozcrooz 01-31-2011 06:06 PM
Changes In The NFL
 
So there are several issues I think the commissioner needs to address this offseason. Its getting to the point where its almost not even the same game anymore. From the no celebrations restrictions to the handing out fines for legitamate hits. Even the whats considered a catch and whats not. What are your thoughts, gripes, and idea's for the future of the NFL?

Bloozcrooz 01-31-2011 06:29 PM
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Bloozcrooz 02-02-2011 11:27 PM
Ok im gonna try an kick off this topic, and if its to no avail then whatever. The thread can fade, and be left for whatever the mods choose to do with it. However the subject I want to discuss, and has been briefly touched on in another thread is this. The whats considered a legal hit and whats not. At what point did we start allowing the sport to take on this safety first attitude. Nobody wants to see a guy get a career or season ending injury. But where is the line drawn at? Other than a Q.B. nobody is deserving of any special treatment. Half the fines handed out were undeserving if you ask me, and are only contributing to the detriment of the game. You leave this rule in effect and it starts waying on a players mind, and changing the speed of the game. Thus slowing it down to a tempo thats far less appealing, and exciting to watch. Football is a violent sport, and the players agree. Stop over dictating what you consider is best, and let it be a unanimous vote. These guys know the chances when they suit up for each game. The majority disagree with the rule so shouldnt that count for something? Im all for the technology of developing safer equipment, and things of that nature. But when you start effecting the mental aspect so much as to players are second guessing themselves. Its simply getting out of hand. If its that big of deal lets let the palm palm girls play and just have a lingerie bowl. C'mon man give me a break!! Here is an example of how the game was meant to be played.

djchameleon 02-05-2011 08:24 PM
I must say that video is awesome and I totally agree with you. They are trying to water it down/tone it down and for what!? I'm pretty sure they are pissing off the fans as much as the players with the constant flags for stupid plays that shouldn't even be flagged. The tempo of football is already slow as it is and they keep doing things to make it even more slower!!

Bloozcrooz 02-05-2011 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 999108)
I must say that video is awesome and I totally agree with you. They are trying to water it down/tone it down and for what!? I'm pretty sure they are pissing off the fans as much as the players with the constant flags for stupid plays that shouldn't even be flagged. The tempo of football is already slow as it is and they keep doing things to make it even more slower!!
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djchameleon 02-05-2011 08:36 PM
I know you are drunk at the moment but what's the deal with the managers or whatever and why is there going to be a lock out? I haven't been following the news of that too much.

Bloozcrooz 02-08-2011 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 999114)
I know you are drunk at the moment but what's the deal with the managers or whatever and why is there going to be a lock out? I haven't been following the news of that too much.
No im sober right at the moment...man when they do touch on the subect its been brief. i think they were kind of waiting on the season to be completley done before real negotiations started. I havent heard anything positive from either side as far as reaching an agreement on anything. Pretty much the deal is neither side..(owners or players) want to lose money. In fact they both very much want to increase their pay and revenue. Problem is they have yet to compromise on either side of the ball on a variety of topics concerning the overall goal. Whether the season is going to consist of 18 games next year or if the players are going to have to take a 18% paycut or if the franchise tag situation should be allowed before any agreement is resolved. A multitude of things are standing in the way from what I can gather that seems to be slowing things to a stand still. I saw Ocho-Cinco ask Goodel at a press conference on behalf of the P.A. his honest thoughts as to what kind of timeline could be expected from the owners standpoint before any ground was gained towards reaching a happy medium. The question was pretty much skated around and answered in the classic "I dont have a clue but im hoping soon" kind of way. I really dont see anyone benifiting from a lockout personally I think both sides are acting in a greedy selfish manner. Its a lose lose situation. Both sides using the threat of no football this year as a means of leverage. When ultimatley everone is going to suffer if thats the case.

Dirty 02-08-2011 07:28 PM
With the potential lockout, I side with the players. I don't know ALL the issues being discussed, but I do know that the players are the ones putting in the sacrifice and risking their bodies each and every Sunday so their owners can collect big fat paychecks. I've said this all along: The rule changes this year would have never happened if the lockout wasn't looming over the game. Roger Goodell wanted to gain public support and have fans behind him. He has brainwashed fans completely. I see on youtube comments and facebook statuses all the time comments about James Harrison being a dirty player and stuff, but if he made those same hits last year, nobody would be calling him dirty. They'd all be saying "Man, Harrison is such an animal and a beast." I am glad that Harrison has publicly been honest with his thoughts about the NFL targeting him. I think this bargaining is going to go on for a long time and they will reach a deal right before the season starts. There's too much money to be lost on both sides for a deal not to get done.

The thing I hate about the helmet-to-helmet penalty is that it's inevitable and going to happen. I think the penalty should be called based on intent. You can tell when a guy is head hunting and it's dangerous for a WR to be running a post route and get his head knocked off by a safety. Hitting him in the chest is just as effective and less dangerous. But there's a lot of penalties called where the helmets barely touch, or don't at all sometimes. Everything is so fast, helmets are gonna touch and it doesn't mean they are dirty players, it just happens and I hate seeing penalties called because of it.

The biggest thing I want to see change is the rules for the Quarterback. My god, how ridiculous can you get. I was watching this game on TV and literally stood up from my seat and chucked my remote and slung some vulgarities at my TV. This hit is PICTURE PERFECT. It was an interception that the Steelers ran back for a TD and got erased cause it was a penalty.



That is absolutely perfect. Nobody can tell me they don't pick on Harrison, that is exactly what you are taught to do. I also hate how they put in these stricter rules MID SEASON. Lol, that's an obvious signal to me that Goodell was trying to gain support and look like a good guy for this off season labor agreements. I highly doubt any new, shocking info was gathered during the season that they didn't have before the season. Can't do anything to the QBs. Can't hit them below the waist or even graze their helmet with your hand by accident. It's pathetic and I hate it.

I'd also like to see excessive celebration penalties taken away or changed. Nick Collins got flagged in the SUPERBOWL for celebrating when he ran back an interception. Are you kidding me???? It's the biggest game of the entire season and he makes a gigantic play and you expect him to not be pumped up and excited? I understand not wanting guys pulling out cell phones and sharpies and stuff for celebrations, even though it's pretty funny, but cmon and let the guys celebrate. They bust their asses their entire lives to make big plays and then they get penalized for being excited about it.

Bloozcrooz 02-09-2011 09:22 AM
Ive read several different colums from several different creditable sources. One issue that keeps arising is the owners wanting the players to give back a billion dollars a year for the next 7 years. The P.A. are in return asking what financial information would you think is relevent? The overall revenue of the NFL is at an all time high. I just cant seem to register the fact that either side is hurting. Especially while the rest of America is in a recession. Their arguing over a multi-billion dollar a year negotioation. I just cant side with either one. I do hope that both can compromise on this subject, and continue the season as planned.
As for the helmet to helmet issue. Im in agreement with Dirty on this. Intentional head shots are pretty obvious, and can be easily monitered. Stop babying a sport of a violent nature. Especially making Harrison your poster boy and singling him out. Just because he openly refuses to accept your girlish style of playing the game. Along with most the league as well. A player thats deffensless as you call it is part of the element that critques the strategy of the game. A receiver left deffensless coming across the middle is a chance most arent willing to take. Which helped to the mystique of the physical unafraid types like the Micheal Irvins or T.O.'s of the modern era. If you open up the feeling of free roam without consequence then whats stopping every former track star turned wanna be receiver from making a living in the middle of the field? It takes away from the game, and robs the Heinz Ward type ball players of their blue collar type reputations in a sense. Because of their willingness to do what most will not.


As far as protecting the Quartback in general I can somewhat sympathize on their behalf. To an extent that is. Some of them take it a little far and barley get breathed on without a flag getting thrown. But in a quarterback driven league you cant have these guys getting inilated every down and Toni Romo'ed out of existance. I think the rules for them should be reevaluated and revised as well. Just dont have our linebackers or D.E.'s or whoever scared to do his job because of a few whiners or to finicky a rule installed, I think if reviewed enough and anaylized a reasonable set of rules can be set in place. Without changing the speed or nature of the games intent. As long as they are properly understood and enforced.


That being said the celebration rule has been on the decline for years. Almost has no existance except for the few who throw caution to the wind in terms of letting a fine deter them from their acts of vanity. I find them amusing most the time as long as its efforts have been suffiently warranted. I get tired of seeing them jump up and down after a 5 yard gain when their down 21 points. I mean have a little sense guys. Is it deserving of a flag though?? No!! I know their has to be some limitations but why not just make it a time line after an initial play or score? Like after a T.D. you have so many seconds or minutes for your celebration and after that its unsportsman like. I dont see the problem and find most celebrations extremley comical. If you cant take a little emotion maybe you should do some self evaluating. These guys work and train hard and deserve a little display of their passion when the oppurtunity presents itself from time to time.

Here are some of examples that still crack me up and get under the skin of those we love to ...annoy....

Bloozcrooz 02-24-2011 05:19 PM
So the Nfl combine is gearing up for young talents to strut their stuff and raise their draft status. Always fun to see who the star players are going to be and how early they go in the draft. However if an agreement isnt reached between the unions soon. This could be somewhat a waste of time. The earlier the better because the longer they delay the less time teams have a chance to get a feel for one another. Like set their structure in place and learn their playbook and team charisma. Which is even more critical for teams with new coaches and Q.B.'s. I hope if a lockout does happen that fans will unite and lock them out Meaning whenever these greedy players and owners come to an agreement. If its after missing a full season we as fans should refuse to contribute to their cause. No going to games,watching them,buying NFL related gear. Anything that brings their main cause for failing to come to an agreement in the first place down.Which happens to be.."revenue" Its funny that the October 31rst game between the Saints and Steelers on Sunday night football. Had a bigger audience than the world series. That should speak loudly for both sides.

Dirty 02-24-2011 05:52 PM
A deal will eventually get done but it'll be at the last second. Cause think about it, there's no urgency on either side right now. What incentive do they have to budge on their issues? I have a feeling this is gonna go right up to the season and then the realization that games could go unplayed and everyone would lose money will force them to compromise and get a deal done. I think there's a lot of posturing on both sides. If you have seen any of Sports Illustrated's Peter King's recent articles on Roger Goodell you can tell he is trying to portray him as this great guy and stuff. Cause both sides wanna have the public support but I feel like everyone gets irritated when millionaire's are arguing over money. I've said before that I don't know all the issues and what they are discussing but I'll always side with the players cause they are the guys who actually go out there and risk their bodies and spend the entire year busting their asses in the gym. The NBA collective bargaining agreement is also going to be up, so it should be interesting to see what happens with that as well cause I know a lot of owners are going to try to find a way to keep control of their star players because of these "superteams" forming.

I like the combine stuff but it kinda bores me after awhile. I like seeing who's stock rises and falls but watching guys continuously run sprints and catch balls gets boring for me. One of my best friends is HUGE into the combine. Him and his Dad go to the NFL Draft every year and he makes full 7 round mock drafts every year. So he's gotten me into it a little bit more. Draft day is always fun though, something to look forward to

Thrice 02-24-2011 10:36 PM
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I like the combine stuff but it kinda bores me after awhile. I like seeing who's stock rises and falls but watching guys continuously run sprints and catch balls gets boring for me. One of my best friends is HUGE into the combine. Him and his Dad go to the NFL Draft every year and he makes full 7 round mock drafts every year. So he's gotten me into it a little bit more. Draft day is always fun though, something to look forward to
I usually do just the first round, then all the Bills picks. Maybe we could do a first round competition this year and all post then compare.

Laces Out Dan! 02-24-2011 10:53 PM
I think Football, just like basketball has turned into a show. From players celebrating like its the superbowl after every single play...to players tweeting and whatever other gimmicks they all have. Its all wrong. Im not just saying this as a hockey fan, but seriously. Watch the way hockey players hold themselves on the ice, on the bench, and in interviews. Its the way it should be. All the other garbage just takes away from the focus on whats really important. The Game itself.

Thrice 02-24-2011 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan! (Post 1010455)
I think Football, just like basketball has turned into a show. From players celebrating like its the superbowl after every single play...to players tweeting and whatever other gimmicks they all have. Its all wrong. Im not just saying this as a hockey fan, but seriously. Watch the way hockey players hold themselves on the ice, on the bench, and in interviews. Its the way it should be. All the other garbage just takes away from the focus on whats really important. The Game itself.
Agreed to a point. You have people like TO/Ocho/Deon/Favre, a very minuscule amount of players that do these things, then the media explodes on them and leaves people wanting more. It is like wrecks in Nascar, people love entertainment and reality TV these days. You give an attention whore a little attention and they want more.

Hockey is so wholesome and raw still, but it is heading in the same direction slowly. They are now starting to become more concerned with head shots, elbows etc...There is a lot more marketing going on to promote hockey. All in all, I think it is a good thing, but seeing the changes that have taken place in football throughout my life scares the shit out of me when it comes to hockey.

Laces Out Dan! 02-24-2011 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrice (Post 1010459)
Agreed to a point. You have people like TO/Ocho/Deon/Favre, a very minuscule amount of players that do these things, then the media explodes on them and leaves people wanting more. It is like wrecks in Nascar, people love entertainment and reality TV these days. You give an attention whore a little attention and they want more.

Hockey is so wholesome and raw still, but it is heading in the same direction slowly. They are now starting to become more concerned with head shots, elbows etc...There is a lot more marketing going on to promote hockey. All in all, I think it is a good thing, but seeing the changes that have taken place in football throughout my life scares the shit out of me when it comes to hockey.
Gotta blame that **** on Bettman. Fuckin guy is trying to change the sport. Hence why there are so few teams in Canada. He doesnt wanna do what works, he wants to be a hero and try to make it huge in stupid placeslike Phoenix, Florida, and Atlanta. How about Quebec City, Winnipeg, and Hamilton. 3 easy cities that would fill 18,000 seats all 41 home games. I also see where you're coming from though in the way that a few bad apples seem to be spoiling the whooole bunch.

Bloozcrooz 02-24-2011 11:52 PM
There is always somebody offended by player celebrations and thats good. The celebration needs to be somewhat offensive or they lose their appeal to me. I dont agree with celebrating after every single play, but if you have the talent like some big players do...show it off. How? Just how exzactly is a little dance or Ocho Cinco putting the football with a pylon taking away from the game? To me its just someone who cant handle the other team or player living up his moment to shine. It never bothered me in sports when I played as a player in anything in school. It doesnt bother me now to watch it. If you want to watch something monotonous try golf. The age old take away from the game has run its course because it doesnt imo. Have a sense of humor..nobody wants to watch a bunch of robots out their with the same amount of emotion feeling and enthuiasm as Ben Stein. I dont agree with the rules on them at all, and thank god their are some out there that despite the fines they know they are going to receive. Celebrate anyway and make the game a little more fun.



Isnt Ben just sooooooo exciting to watch ^

Laces Out Dan! 02-25-2011 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1010467)
There is always somebody offended by player celebrations and thats good. The celebration needs to be somewhat offensive or they lose their appeal to me. I dont agree with celebrating after every single play, but if you have the talent like some big players do...show it off. How? Just how exzactly is a little dance or Ocho Cinco putting the football with a pylon taking away from the game? To me its just someone who cant handle the other team or player living up his moment to shine. It never bothered me in sports when I played as a player in anything in school. It doesnt bother me now to watch it. If you want to watch something monotonous try golf. The age old take away from the game has run its course because it doesnt imo. Have a sense of humor..nobody wants to watch a bunch of robots out their with the same amount of emotion feeling and enthuiasm as Ben Stein. I dont agree with the rules on them at all, and thank god their are some out there that despite the fines they know they are going to receive. Celebrate anyway and make the game a little more fun.



Isnt Ben just sooooooo exciting to watch ^
I just want you to take some time and watch a little lacrosse or hockey. Two perfect examples of sports where the players have a code on conduct they dont cross when it comes to sportmanship in celebrating. Players in football make a tackle and jump up, flexes, stand over their opponent. A lax or hockey player throws a hit and gets up and hussles to the bench or gets their ass back to the play. Theres no need for it. I like football, and Im not trying to make it sound like its a garbage sport. I just dont think that by not celebrating in an incredibly fashion, you're a robot.

Bloozcrooz 02-25-2011 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan! (Post 1010470)
I just want you to take some time and watch a little lacrosse or hockey. Two perfect examples of sports where the players have a code on conduct they dont cross when it comes to sportmanship in celebrating. Players in football make a tackle and jump up, flexes, stand over their opponent. A lax or hockey player throws a hit and gets up and hussles to the bench or gets their ass back to the play. Theres no need for it. I like football, and Im not trying to make it sound like its a garbage sport. I just dont think that by not celebrating in an incredibly fashion, you're a robot.
Like I said im not a fan of the every little play celebrations. For instance a runningback makes a 5 yard gain on a second down and his team is down 20 points. Thats stupid and meaningless. However if it was a big time player making a big time play...like on 3rd and 15 to get the first down....and everybody in the stadium knows who the ball is going to (and so does the opposing deffense) and he still catches it and even scores. Thats raw talent at its best and is deserving of a little self praise involving a dance,sharpie autograph, or whatever. then get back to buisness as usual. No im not a fan of every down celebrations but to completley take it out of the game isnt fair either.

Ive tried watching hockey..never lacrosse. I dont really care for it, but if thats what you like then thats what you like. Im sure there is just as much effort and skill that goes into being either or as it does to play in the NFL or any other sport. It just lacks controling the tempo of the game to me. Maybe I havent watched it enough to completley understand the concept. Im sure theres strategy to it like any other sport. Just was never patient enough to wait for them to score.

Thrice 02-25-2011 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1010473)
Like I said im not a fan of the every little play celebrations. For instance a runningback makes a 5 yard gain on a second down and his team is down 20 points. Thats stupid and meaningless. However if it was a big time player making a big time play...like on 3rd and 15 to get the first down....and everybody in the stadium knows who the ball is going to (and so does the opposing deffense) and he still catches it and even scores. Thats raw talent at its best and is deserving of a little self praise involving a dance,sharpie autograph, or whatever. then get back to buisness as usual. No im not a fan of every down celebrations but to completley take it out of the game isnt fair either.

Ive tried watching hockey..never lacrosse. I dont really care for it, but if thats what you like then thats what you like. Im sure there is just as much effort and skill that goes into being either or as it does to play in the NFL or any other sport. It just lacks controling the tempo of the game to me. Maybe I havent watched it enough to completley understand the concept. Im sure theres strategy to it like any other sport. Just was never patient enough to wait for them to score.
Oh man! You reminded me of completely why football just keeps losing points. There is a rulebook that we apparently just started to follow verbatim this year. It is one thing when the refs miss a call and cost your team the game, but when they make a call that clearly defies the entire game of football and takes a win away from a ****ty team, who has one all star player, and whom you know is getting the ball, and he gets the TD....Calvin Johnson. That along with the pussification has tainted my view completely. Hockey upholds that 'have at it boys' mentality that I desire.

djchameleon 02-25-2011 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1010361)
A deal will eventually get done but it'll be at the last second. Cause think about it, there's no urgency on either side right now. What incentive do they have to budge on their issues?
You know what incentive they have? What urgency? They aren't allowed to check out play or look at playbook modifications because of this. So they need to get it done as soon as possible so they can revise strategies for the upcoming season.

Bloozcrooz 02-28-2011 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1010361)
A deal will eventually get done but it'll be at the last second. Cause think about it, there's no urgency on either side right now. What incentive do they have to budge on their issues? I have a feeling this is gonna go right up to the season and then the realization that games could go unplayed and everyone would lose money will force them to compromise and get a deal done. I think there's a lot of posturing on both sides. If you have seen any of Sports Illustrated's Peter King's recent articles on Roger Goodell you can tell he is trying to portray him as this great guy and stuff. Cause both sides wanna have the public support but I feel like everyone gets irritated when millionaire's are arguing over money. I've said before that I don't know all the issues and what they are discussing but I'll always side with the players cause they are the guys who actually go out there and risk their bodies and spend the entire year busting their asses in the gym. The NBA collective bargaining agreement is also going to be up, so it should be interesting to see what happens with that as well cause I know a lot of owners are going to try to find a way to keep control of their star players because of these "superteams" forming.

I like the combine stuff but it kinda bores me after awhile. I like seeing who's stock rises and falls but watching guys continuously run sprints and catch balls gets boring for me. One of my best friends is HUGE into the combine. Him and his Dad go to the NFL Draft every year and he makes full 7 round mock drafts every year. So he's gotten me into it a little bit more. Draft day is always fun though, something to look forward to
I would say that the incentive should be the love of the game and the fans. Football is at an all time high as far as popularity right now. Why would you not want to come to an agreement? I think the longer they wait the more damage to the game they do. Which n turns affects their payckecks..which is what all this is about in the first place. March 3rd is the end of the agreement thats in effect now. An extension or new agreement hasnt shown any signs of life yet. As a true fan of the game I would like to see both sides give a little and get this issue resolved. Besides weve got a new coach and need all the prep time we can get in. To learn to mesh together as a team and all the other offseason things you do to get ahead of the game.

As far as the combine this weekend nobody really blew me away. I was mostly interested in watching Cam Newton as so was everyone else. There was a lot of speculation in regaurds to his capabilities as a Q.B. and whether or not it was a good choice for him to do the combine. I didnt see anything wrong in his throwing mechanics at all. His delivery was accurate and fluent. The only thing I saw that he was doing awkward was his 7 step drop. Of course in college a big percentage of the teams work out of the shotgun so theres never any practice on your drop backs. Im not exzactly sure what kind of offense Auburn runs but with a great athlete like Cam I would imagine your standard option would be my guess. I saw on the news here Dallas might have been interested in him so I did my own little investigation on if I approve.(like it matters but ehh) Overall id say a Cam Newton draft may not ba a bad thing. I had my doubts on him but with a little polishing on the rough around the edges parts. I think Cam will excell as well as any Q.B. ever has. We already know mentally he has the capabilities of tuning out negativity with the whole scandal thing this last season. Even with that hanging over him he managed to still win the national championship and the heisman trophy. In the Nfl this is definatley a good trait to have because we all know the love of critisism the media loves to throw out there and turn the smallest thing into a distraction.
As far as anyone else nothing really caught my eye. A few tight ends had an exceptional vertical leap. A tight end may be in the works for my team in the future but no real sense of urgency at the moment. I think our secondry is in desperate need of some help. I cant figure out Jerry's methods of drafting and signing. I mean these high profile receivers are great to have (when they do their job) but if your deffense cant stop anyone..whats the point? Stop the bleeding already and sign a free safety and some good corners. The deffense as a whole needs a leader on the field and the locker room.

djchameleon 02-28-2011 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1011612)
I would say that the incentive should be the love of the game and the fans. Football is at an all time high as far as popularity right now. Why would you not want to come to an agreement? I think the longer they wait the more damage to the game they do. Which n turns affects their payckecks..which is what all this is about in the first place. March 3rd is the end of the agreement thats in effect now. An extension or new agreement hasnt shown any signs of life yet. As a true fan of the game I would like to see both sides give a little and get this issue resolved. Besides weve got a new coach and need all the prep time we can get in. To learn to mesh together as a team and all the other offseason things you do to get ahead of the game.

As far as the combine this weekend nobody really blew me away. I was mostly interested in watching Cam Newton as so was everyone else. There was a lot of speculation in regaurds to his capabilities as a Q.B. and whether or not it was a good choice for him to do the combine. I didnt see anything wrong in his throwing mechanics at all. His delivery was accurate and fluent. The only thing I saw that he was doing awkward was his 7 step drop. Of course in college a big percentage of the teams work out of the shotgun so theres never any practice on your drop backs. Im not exzactly sure what kind of offense Auburn runs but with a great athlete like Cam I would imagine your standard option would be my guess. I saw on the news here Dallas might have been interested in him so I did my own little investigation on if I approve.(like it matters but ehh) Overall id say a Cam Newton draft may not ba a bad thing. I had my doubts on him but with a little polishing on the rough around the edges parts. I think Cam will excell as well as any Q.B. ever has. We already know mentally he has the capabilities of tuning out negativity with the whole scandal thing this last season. Even with that hanging over him he managed to still win the national championship and the heisman trophy. In the Nfl this is definatley a good trait to have because we all know the love of critisism the media loves to throw out there and turn the smallest thing into a distraction.
As far as anyone else nothing really caught my eye. A few tight ends had an exceptional vertical leap. A tight end may be in the works for my team in the future but no real sense of urgency at the moment. I think our secondry is in desperate need of some help. I cant figure out Jerry's methods of drafting and signing. I mean these high profile receivers are great to have (when they do their job) but if your deffense cant stop anyone..whats the point? Stop the bleeding already and sign a free safety and some good corners. The deffense as a whole needs a leader on the field and the locker room.
the Draft didn't rounds didn't happen yet did they?

I hope I didn't miss them.

Also like I said. They can't view playbooks for some strange reason until an agreement is reached so they need to figure out something soon.

Bloozcrooz 02-28-2011 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1011619)
the Draft didn't rounds didn't happen yet did they?

I hope I didn't miss them.

Also like I said. They can't view playbooks for some strange reason until an agreement is reached so they need to figure out something soon.
No this was just an exibition of players showing their abilitys to raise their draft status. Or not..some players choose not to participate thinking that will help their odds. Im not sure of the exzact date of the draft. Isnt usually in late April? You havent missed anything yet man. Im always worried what hair brained train of thought the Cowboys front office will have come draft day. This year we have a 9th pick in the first round. Theres talk of Amukamara also being sought after for the draft. Im really thinking safety would be the route to go though. Even though if we did draft him I woudnt be disappointed. You never know what the outcomes going to be but I just hope its not something totally bone headed.

Thrice 02-28-2011 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1011629)
No this was just an exibition of players showing their abilitys to raise their draft status. Or not..some players choose not to participate thinking that will help their odds. Im not sure of the exzact date of the draft. Isnt usually in late April? You havent missed anything yet man. Im always worried what hair brained train of thought the Cowboys front office will have come draft day. This year we have a 9th pick in the first round. Theres talk of Amukamara also being sought after for the draft. Im really thinking safety would be the route to go though. Even though if we did draft him I woudnt be disappointed. You never know what the outcomes going to be but I just hope its not something totally bone headed.
Yeah, April, draft is the 28th. Prince Amukamura would probably be the best bet if you are hoping for a safety in the first round, as there are not really any impressive stand out safeties this year, and if anything you could hope they convert him. Many mocks I have seen have the Bills taking Newton, which I do not want at all. Ideally we take Pat Peterson (CB) and if not him I would say a nice 3-4 pass rushing DE/OLB, but we just signed Shawn Merriman for 2 yrs, Hopefully he stays healthy. If we dont go Peterson, I would not be too mad with Von Miller or Da'quan Bowers.

Have you watched any of the combine? It is pretty boring so I can only watch bits of it. Some of the top prospects are rockin' under armour that can monitor heart rate and G's exerted, which is alot more antertaining to me than watching Cam Newton overthrow his receiver every play.The 40 is alright to watch and thats about it.

Thom Yorke 02-28-2011 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrice (Post 1011748)
Yeah, April, draft is the 28th. Prince Amukamura would probably be the best bet if you are hoping for a safety in the first round, as there are not really any impressive stand out safeties this year, and if anything you could hope they convert him. Many mocks I have seen have the Bills taking Newton, which I do not want at all. Ideally we take Pat Peterson (CB) and if not him I would say a nice 3-4 pass rushing DE/OLB, but we just signed Shawn Merriman for 2 yrs, Hopefully he stays healthy. If we dont go Peterson, I would not be too mad with Von Miller or Da'quan Bowers.

Have you watched any of the combine? It is pretty boring so I can only watch bits of it. Some of the top prospects are rockin' under armour that can monitor heart rate and G's exerted, which is alot more antertaining to me than watching Cam Newton overthrow his receiver every play.The 40 is alright to watch and thats about it.
For testing I like watching the vertical jump too. As for the drills, the gauntlet is pretty sweet.

Bloozcrooz 02-28-2011 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrice (Post 1011748)
Yeah, April, draft is the 28th. Prince Amukamura would probably be the best bet if you are hoping for a safety in the first round, as there are not really any impressive stand out safeties this year, and if anything you could hope they convert him. Many mocks I have seen have the Bills taking Newton, which I do not want at all. Ideally we take Pat Peterson (CB) and if not him I would say a nice 3-4 pass rushing DE/OLB, but we just signed Shawn Merriman for 2 yrs, Hopefully he stays healthy. If we dont go Peterson, I would not be too mad with Von Miller or Da'quan Bowers.

Have you watched any of the combine? It is pretty boring so I can only watch bits of it. Some of the top prospects are rockin' under armour that can monitor heart rate and G's exerted, which is alot more antertaining to me than watching Cam Newton overthrow his receiver every play.The 40 is alright to watch and thats about it.
Yeah I dont know that much about Prince though. If we were going to move someone id just move Terrance Newman. His tackling has improved tremendously the last couple of years and he has put on some muscle mass as well. Unfortunatley he has lost a step it seems. I think he could make the transformation to safety fairly well with his size and tackling capabilities. Coming up in the box to stop the run and things of that nature should be no problem. Long as his mind doesnt blow up when they go running different schemes and coverages. Everybody in the NFL knows you can throw the deep ball on Dallas. Its depressing because you know its going to happen and there is nothing they can do to stop it. Ater the fact their all standing around pointing fingers and playing the blame game. Or some of them just flat out get burned one on one without blowing a coverage.

As far as your Bills go dont yall have a franchise Q.B. already? I havent really heard that much on them other than that new star receiver yall got. Shawn Merriman should be a nice edition to any teams deffense...hoping of course he stays healthy and passes all his drug tests. Who's in the Bills division in the AFC?

As far as the watching the combine like I said other than watching Cam and a couple other Q.B.'s and tight ends. I didnt see anything mind blowing or that impressive. Nobody was breaking any records in the 40 that im aware of or anything. Im guessing itll be a while before another Chris Johnson or Deon Sanders comes along and sets new records.

Thrice 03-01-2011 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1011956)
Yeah I dont know that much about Prince though. If we were going to move someone id just move Terrance Newman. His tackling has improved tremendously the last couple of years and he has put on some muscle mass as well. Unfortunatley he has lost a step it seems. I think he could make the transformation to safety fairly well with his size and tackling capabilities. Coming up in the box to stop the run and things of that nature should be no problem. Long as his mind doesnt blow up when they go running different schemes and coverages. Everybody in the NFL knows you can throw the deep ball on Dallas. Its depressing because you know its going to happen and there is nothing they can do to stop it. Ater the fact their all standing around pointing fingers and playing the blame game. Or some of them just flat out get burned one on one without blowing a coverage.

As far as your Bills go dont yall have a franchise Q.B. already? I havent really heard that much on them other than that new star receiver yall got. Shawn Merriman should be a nice edition to any teams deffense...hoping of course he stays healthy and passes all his drug tests. Who's in the Bills division in the AFC?

As far as the watching the combine like I said other than watching Cam and a couple other Q.B.'s and tight ends. I didnt see anything mind blowing or that impressive. Nobody was breaking any records in the 40 that im aware of or anything. Im guessing itll be a while before another Chris Johnson or Deon Sanders comes along and sets new records.
Bills have Ryan Fitzpatrick, who is not really a franchise guy, but I wouldn't mind using our picks to build around him. He is a smart player and can put points on the board. Buffalo has Miami, New England, and the Jets in their division.

starrynight 06-26-2011 10:16 AM
The owners have way too much power. They can move teams at will, blackout games, bad owners can't be removed easily and obviously players can be forced to keep with teams even when out of contract. They get easy cash from the NFL monopolies they are given in particular areas and aren't always that connected to either the location or maybe even the game sometimes, it's more like an ego trip to be in charge of an NFL team.

Dr_Rez 06-26-2011 10:29 AM
Being from Pittsburgh the whole Harrison thing is a load of ****. Although I guess they have to make an example out of someone.

My problom is with making every sport so ****ing safe that the fun and excitment is taken out of it. In my opinion if your making 10 million a year WITHOUT the risk of big injury THEN **** YOU.

And for all you people saying but they only live to 60 blah blah blah...Well they deleted to be a pro athlete and make a ****load of money instead of sit at home and eat vitamins. So why should we baby them while they get millions of our cities tax dollars for new stadiums.

Bloozcrooz 06-26-2011 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1077118)
Being from Pittsburgh the whole Harrison thing is a load of ****. Although I guess they have to make an example out of someone.

My problom is with making every sport so ****ing safe that the fun and excitment is taken out of it. In my opinion if your making 10 million a year WITHOUT the risk of big injury THEN **** YOU.

And for all you people saying but they only live to 60 blah blah blah...Well they deleted to be a pro athlete and make a ****load of money instead of sit at home and eat vitamins. So why should we baby them while they get millions of our cities tax dollars for new stadiums.
RezZ, bud were you drunk when you posted this?

Dr_Rez 06-26-2011 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz (Post 1077379)
RezZ, bud were you drunk when you posted this?
No i was sober. After re reading it I am not very proud of my handywork though. Im not sure why I typed the word deleted in there, that made no sense., definitely ment opted I think I was just angry. At least you can still get my general point in what I said though.

ghdau3u5e4p5 08-10-2011 03:07 AM
Reading makes a full man; conference a ready man; and writing an exact man.

highoctane93 08-10-2011 06:53 AM
ok this right here is straight up bullsh*t. tha NFL has officially p*ssed this b*tch off

* srry 4got my smile =)

Bloozcrooz 10-19-2012 08:23 PM
Any thoughts on Beyonce being the Super Bowl entertainment this year?

Sparky 10-20-2012 07:58 PM
i think it will be nice.

Mrd00d 10-21-2012 03:37 AM
If Beyonce is doing the superbowl, in my opinion, that will be at least the 3rd year in a row of garbage. And Tom Petty was only mediocre, but at least it was good. How hard is it to book someone relevant for the supposed biggest game of the year?

Thom Yorke 10-21-2012 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrd00d (Post 1242491)
If Beyonce is doing the superbowl, in my opinion, that will be at least the 3rd year in a row of garbage. And Tom Petty was only mediocre, but at least it was good. How hard is it to book someone relevant for the supposed biggest game of the year?
The groups that they book have always puzzled me. From 2005 to last year they almost exclusively went with bands/artists that were biggest in the 60s/70s/80s. Really, the most culturally relevant group they've brought out in the last 10 years was the Black Eyed Peas (at least for the younger audience, but I think that's who they need to target), and I think they were past the peak of their popularity when they had them on as well.

Bloozcrooz 10-21-2012 08:19 PM
Honestly I dont mind looking at Beyonce perform a halftime show. Not all that into her music but I cant remember the last time they had someone who's music I did like anyway. At least she's easy on the eyes

Bloozcrooz 11-26-2012 02:55 PM
Is it just me or is the NFL plagued with more injurys this year? It seems like every team week in and week out is suffering 2 or 3 substancial injurys to players in a game. Is it just the fact that the awareness has heightened or in relation to the less contact in practice rule that was implemented this last offseason by many of the teams. Also if my memory serves me correctly a some of the teams are practicing without pads as well. With all of the rules put in place to protect players in the last decade you would think the risk of injury would have gone down considerably but it seems only the QB's are benefitting from most of this. I still disagree with some of what has taken place rule wise because of the potential of how it would affect the speed of the game. Also it doesn't seem to be all that effective and only leads to ridiculous penaltys at the most crucial moments possible in a game.

slappyjenkins 11-27-2012 12:21 AM
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