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Cuthbert 11-05-2013 08:16 AM

Not when you're English.

'90, '96, '98, '04, '06, '12 - All lost.

Beat Spain in '96. Won 1, lost 6.

If it was a lottery that'd be split more like 50/50. You don't lose 86% of your shootouts because of luck.

Goofle 11-05-2013 08:35 AM

Of course you can. Derren Brown flipped a coin and hit 10 heard in a row. Took him a few hours but it happened.

England have plenty of players who are used to the pressure, the issue is having individuals taking rubbish penalties or the keeper going the right way and saving it. Or even a simple matter of lesser technique on average. It's a lottery in that respect, not because they all sh*t their pants.

Cuthbert 11-05-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1380907)
Of course you can. Derren Brown flipped a coin and hit 10 heard in a row. Took him a few hours but it happened.

I've seen it, penalties are not a coin toss though, there is some science involved.

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England have plenty of players who are used to the pressure, the issue is having individuals taking rubbish penalties or the keeper going the right way and saving it. Or even a simple matter of lesser technique on average. It's a lottery in that respect, not because they all sh*t their pants.
Technique can be worked on, so if it's down to that we weren't unlucky to lose and it wasn't a lottery. English managers have in the past admitted they didn't practice penalties, it was Hodgson who changed it and got them to practice. Still went out though.

As soon as it goes to penalties the fans straight away think we're out. It's only human that past losses have planted a seed of doubt in the players' minds, then they rush the run up and scuff the kick, or try too hard and sky it. If they think they will win I reckon we'd have won at least one more of those shootouts.

Half of them don't look confident going into them, compare that to someone like van Persie or Balotelli.

chris_mills 11-05-2013 09:48 AM

If we just practise enough till everyone believes they're ****ing incredible and can do anything - then we're sorted :)

misspoptart 11-05-2013 02:12 PM

Anyone else apply to be a volunteer? I just had my interview last night. Good stuff!

Cuthbert 11-05-2013 02:20 PM

No sorry. Did you see my post re: tickets a few pages back?

misspoptart 11-05-2013 02:28 PM

Yep, I did. But I'm not interested in tickets, anyway, I'm going for the cross cultural drunkeness and general celebratory atmosphere. If I get accepted as a volunteer, I might get to watch a few games for free! :)

Cuthbert 11-05-2013 02:48 PM

Fair enough. Hope you enjoy it Miss P, bit jelly tbh but it will be pretty good here as it always is during World Cups so that's some consolation, I guess.

Dr_Rez 11-05-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1380905)
Not when you're English.

'90, '96, '98, '04, '06, '12 - All lost.

Beat Spain in '96. Won 1, lost 6.

If it was a lottery that'd be split more like 50/50. You don't lose 86% of your shootouts because of luck.

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Cuthbert 11-05-2013 04:10 PM

A terrible record I'm sure you'll agree.


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