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Cuthbert 10-17-2016 06:43 AM

Matildas lose 7-0 to Newcastle Jets under-15s side in Rio Olympics warm-up | Daily Mail Online

Thrashed by a team full of children.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-17-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1758878)
That might be the current case but we both don't know how well an all female team would do against an all male team.

Besides that point to your other post.
US women's team is ranked number 1 in the world while Canada is at 5 and you think Canada's women can do better than their men's team but the US women cant? GTFO

Yes because the Canadian men don't even qualify lol. The US men are more than capable players.I don't really know where else to go with this arguement, there's a reason why sports are seperate. I watch a fair bit of women's football (soccer) and I would hate to see the players either not have a job or just be forced to sit on the bench for a living.

DwnWthVwls 10-17-2016 07:39 AM

I like Jansz's point. What sport's would this work in?

I think anything non-contact is perfectly reasonable, but when you get into football/rugby or MMA territory, eh? I mean honestly, if a woman is talented enough to make it onto a pro-male team I think she should have the option, but how realistic is it?

I'd also be interested to see the statistics on the male/female ratios in sports and leagues that do not have restrictions. I know in eSports, female competitors are practically non-existent or form all female teams. Sexism? Perhaps. I'm not fully convinced though.

Goofle 10-17-2016 07:43 AM

The Men's US Soccer team would beat the Women's team by about 30-0 DJ.

I don't follow Golf enough to know the comparative handicaps for men and women, but it's fair to assume the Men generally hit the ball a lot further, which is a major advantage. As for tennis, I'd guess that pretty much every male pro in the top 200-300 would beat Serena Williams.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-17-2016 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1758882)

Monkey with the facts.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-17-2016 08:31 AM

Omg this reminds me of yesterday in Plug where I had to argue with DJ, Bat, and Ki all at the same time because they were trying to tell me eSports should be an olympic sport.

djchameleon 10-17-2016 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1758880)
Deej they have had success in women's competitions. If you want to make a point about success you need to have the women's team play in the same competition.

Also don't move the goalposts. I don't care about wages and that's not your argument.

Also as I mentioned before, maybe you didn't read my post but you and I both don't know what would be the outcome of all female vs all male match because it hasn't been done yet. The only female vs male match that I can think of off the top of my head was that battle of the sexes tennis match that happened in the 70s? I think

I didn't bring up wages to move goal posts. I was just letting you know what I know about the sport. It wasn't me moving goal posts or using it to create a new argument.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1758909)
Yes because the Canadian men don't even qualify lol. The US men are more than capable players.I don't really know where else to go with this arguement, there's a reason why sports are seperate. I watch a fair bit of women's football (soccer) and I would hate to see the players either not have a job or just be forced to sit on the bench for a living.

I am challenging that so called reason why sports are separate. Why do they need to be seperate in this day and age. They used to be seperate between the races. Black people have taken over basketball and football for the most part and their size advantages of being physical weren't an issue enough to keep the races seperate so why should that argument work for women?

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1758913)
I like Jansz's point. What sport's would this work in?

I think anything non-contact is perfectly reasonable, but when you get into football/rugby or MMA territory, eh? I mean honestly, if a woman is talented enough to make it onto a pro-male team I think she should have the option, but how realistic is it?

I'd also be interested to see the statistics on the male/female ratios in sports and leagues that do not have restrictions. I know in eSports, female competitors are practically non-existent or form all female teams. Sexism? Perhaps. I'm not fully convinced though.

Why aren't you convinced that it is sexism? Also the only reason why it isn't realistic is because of people's attitude towards seeing men compete with women. It might not be inherently sexism but there is definitely some outdated cave man thinking at play.

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1758915)
The Men's US Soccer team would beat the Women's team by about 30-0 DJ.

I don't follow Golf enough to know the comparative handicaps for men and women, but it's fair to assume the Men generally hit the ball a lot further, which is a major advantage. As for tennis, I'd guess that pretty much every male pro in the top 200-300 would beat Serena Williams.

No ****ing way with your Serena claim. The entirety of your post is BS.

djchameleon 10-17-2016 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1758928)
Omg this reminds me of yesterday in Plug where I had to argue with DJ, Bat, and Ki all at the same time because they were trying to tell me eSports should be an olympic sport.

I told you I was going to create a thread that was similar to that debate in plug didn't I?

Also Goofle should open back up that thread for us to continue the debate.

Ninetales 10-17-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1758870)
I wonder which sport it would matter least in. Golf? Tennis? Baseball?

I don't know about golf/baseball, but I don't think tennis would work. Even Serena wouldn't be anywhere near competitive in mens tourneys (it was a while ago, but she got beaten pretty badly by ~200 rank mens).

And I know for hockey, the womens' Olympic team played all around Canada against local AAA clubs, and did alright - winning record if memory serves me. So that's not bad but that's the best of the best women in the world against non professional teenagers. There has been a woman that made it to the NHL so there's that

Goofle 10-17-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1758929)

No ****ing way with your Serena claim. The entirety of your post is BS.

I'm assuming she would have to play the full five sets? Also what else was wrong with my post? 30-0 may be over the top, but it would be an absolute annihilation.


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