The English Football Thread

Originally Posted by Face

Oh, how many times had rooney won the ballon d'or?

I agree with you that Owen was better than Rooney, however using the Ballon d'Or to strengthen your argument is poor. We saw from the list of votes that got published this year that it's not an accurate indication of a player's talent.

Thierry Henry was robbed in 2004. Robbed. The reason Ronaldinho won it that year was because he had a better brand, got votes from all the smaller countries, similar to how many people voted Balotelli this year even though he'd done nothing for City but had a good tournament with the Euros.

Mate that list of players you said were English and better than Rooney is really bad. Can't agree there.

Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Cole, Beckham, Rio. I agree with, Baines, Terry, Johnson and Carragher, no. Terry is an average defender btw, he's only rated so highly because he makes a mistake then throws himself in at the last minute to save the ball ala World Cup 2010 or the time Diaby nearly killed him. His poor reading of the game is the reason he ends up in so many of these last ditch tackles.