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reiko57 10-26-2009 11:28 PM

good headphones for mixing/mastering
 
what are some decent ones for 150-200 bucks? or if you know of a steal please let me know, i badly need some, its driving me crazy not having any so i'm gonna sell my ps3 and the games, i figure thats good for 200 bucks. so help me out, i know theres some pros around here

Hype8 10-27-2009 12:36 AM

Sony V6's. professional quality, and $65 on amazon. they're outstanding phones.

Amazon.com: Sony MDR-V6 Monitor Series Headphones with CCAW Voice Coil: Electronics

reiko57 10-27-2009 12:57 AM

thank u sir, i might just sell the psp then lol

music_phantom13 10-27-2009 06:58 PM

I have a pair of Sennheiser eH350 headphones that I got for my birthday that I know for a fact were found for about $65 versus the $130 they usually cost. If you can find them on sale, I think they are really powerful, quality headphones. I won't lie, I'm not an expert on the topic so I honestly don't know much about headphones. What I do know is, mine are some of the best ones I've personally ever had the pleasure of hearing.

The Musicophile 10-28-2009 12:18 PM

Mixing on headphones isn't generally advised, and Mastering on headphones just isn't done (not professionally anyway). Speakers are better for various different reasons. But if you absolutely have to use headphones, look on the Sound on Sound magazine website (I can't post a link but googling it should work) and search 'mixing on headphones'. There are a couple of good articles on there which advise a certain model I can't remember the name of, and you can be sure you're getting pro advice.

reiko57 10-29-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Musicophile (Post 759509)
Mixing on headphones isn't generally advised, and Mastering on headphones just isn't done (not professionally anyway). Speakers are better for various different reasons. But if you absolutely have to use headphones, look on the Sound on Sound magazine website (I can't post a link but googling it should work) and search 'mixing on headphones'. There are a couple of good articles on there which advise a certain model I can't remember the name of, and you can be sure you're getting pro advice.

i usually just run it through a mastering filter and make minor adjustments, im not pro man but the mixing is what takes most of my time, i gotta do something, mixing on these computer speakers just isn't an option

music_phantom13 10-30-2009 07:01 AM

Oh I wouldn't mix or master on headphones, because it will sound a lot different through speakers. But if you're just trying to make some music, you can definitely start out on headphones particularly if you're in a situation where you can't blast your speakers. It's a lot easier to hear than trying to listen quietly through speakers. And if you can't turn up the speakers, you might not have a choice for mixing and mastering.

Freebase Dali 11-02-2009 10:07 PM

I generally like to use headphones during production and basic leveling stuff, as it keeps the noise down and I get a better ear on what my reverbs and details are doing, but as mentioned before, using headphones for the entire mixing process is not advisable. If you absolutely can't invest in some decent studio monitors, at least A/B reference between your cans and whatever speakers you have - and the almighty car test - to get a general idea of where your averages are. The more you're able to reference with, the more informed you'll be when making your mixing decisions. Just keep in mind the strengths and weaknesses of each listening medium and factor that in. You can do comparisons with professionally recorded material you like the sound of through your referencing medium to get a general picture of the referencing medium's strengths/weaknesses.

That said, I somehow get good results with a simple pair of JVC HA-M1000's. They just work well with the way I mix, and I don't find myself having to correct much when I start mixing through my monitors.

I made a mistake of buying those Sony MDR - 7509HD's which were given accolades and were supposed to be the next 7506's, which are supposedly industry standards for media application, and they sound like absolute garbage. Huge bump in the high-mids, harsh highs, and no low end response at all... Sounds like you're tracking in a tin can that's situated inside a toilet in a metal bathroom. Horribly narrow freq-response. Don't buy them.

If you're searching around for a cost-effective, decent pair of phones, just try to find something that doesn't boost any freqs if possible. Trying them out is a good idea. Bring a CD you're very familiar with to a local shop and run it through different headphones and take note of which phones portray the music the most honestly and that's within your price-range. That may help you pick some headphones that won't work against you as much as some of them definitely will.

sheraton 02-14-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by music_phantom13 (Post 759262)
I have a pair of Sennheiser eH350 headphones that I got for my birthday that I know for a fact were found for about $65 versus the $130 they usually cost. If you can find them on sale, I think they are really powerful, quality headphones. I won't lie, I'm not an expert on the topic so I honestly don't know much about headphones. What I do know is, mine are some of the best ones I've personally ever had the pleasure of hearing.



yep anything from sennheiser will be great good balanced neutral sound
had a few pairs from their cheapest to about mid range and i found
recordings to sound balanced on different playback systems

GuitarBizarre 02-14-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sheraton (Post 826150)
yep anything from sennheiser will be great good balanced neutral sound
had a few pairs from their cheapest to about mid range and i found
recordings to sound balanced on different playback systems

Try a pair of Sennheiser CX300s and you'll be badly disappointed. On the same token, try a pair of Grado Sr60's and observe audio perfection.

Ace 02-15-2010 01:22 AM

Sennheiser HD280s. Best headphones I've ever used, both in studio and out.
They work very well in picking out subtle mistakes in your mix.
They also work very well for general listening purposes, and they are neutral.

You can get a pair from ProAudioStar on Ebay for $83.00.

Psy-Fi 02-16-2010 09:57 PM

You might want to consider the AKG-K701 headphones. They retail for around $250, but are worth every penny in my humble opinion. Certainly worth a listen.

Indie_Lover 04-14-2010 09:02 AM

IMO you don't EVER use headphones to mix/master with. Always use a nice pair of Active or Passive Speakers. You can get a sexy pair for around £200-300.

The problem with headphones is that you cannot tell the amount of low end is in the mix. The levels won't work in the speakers because after 10 minutes of using headphones, you automatically push sounds 'louder'.

I'm studying Music Tech as a degree and have been recording for 5 years now, from my experience this is the case and all of my lecturers would agree so.

Hope this negative message helps. :D

Freebase Dali 04-15-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indie_Lover (Post 850194)
IMO you don't EVER use headphones to mix/master with. Always use a nice pair of Active or Passive Speakers. You can get a sexy pair for around £200-300.

The problem with headphones is that you cannot tell the amount of low end is in the mix. The levels won't work in the speakers because after 10 minutes of using headphones, you automatically push sounds 'louder'.

I'm studying Music Tech as a degree and have been recording for 5 years now, from my experience this is the case and all of my lecturers would agree so.

Hope this negative message helps. :D

Not only that, but proper stereo imaging is another factor. While no one can argue the effectiveness of proper monitoring, headphones can be a good tool for particular critical listening when editing, as well as A/B referencing. Simply mixing/mastering your music through only your studio monitors might be great if everyone's going to listen to your music through studio monitors, but since that's not usually the case it also helps to tweak your final product to a medium through which the music will be most heard.
With that in mind, I think it's best to use a standard, mediocre headset that will cover a larger average representative of the listener's situation, in addition to a pair of reliable studio monitors.

TRAHAN459 04-21-2011 06:43 PM

Hey guys; Man I have been mixing in my studio for years and have found that the more speakers you subject your music to the better the mix will be. I do use headphones to tweek the volume on the tracks but the sound is very bright and not true with a set of monitors. I cut a record in nashville in the 80's in Jim Reeves studio and I was amazed what was on the wall. A cheep-o set of what looked like clock radio speakers, a mid sized (4'') stereo speakers and finally a set of jbl huge monitor speakers. Now this was a million dollar studio back then. Cant really final mix on a pair of cans but you do need to know how the mix is flowing on all size speakers. Oh just bought a set of the AKG K-240's, havent recieved them yet but the reviews are good.

s_k 04-22-2011 02:56 AM

I do agree with the AKG's :D
As far as the speakers go; It depends on what market you're aiming at.
Most peoples listen to PC speakers or cheap-ass all-in-one sets or these crappy 5.1 surround crap things. Most records are aimed to sound properly on these pieces of ****.
But believe me, when you have a pair of proper ears and a proper audio set-up, these records are annoying as hell... :(

highoctane93 04-22-2011 09:54 AM

i suggest beats by dr.dre they are pretty pricey ($700) but my older brother kyle is a mix artist as well as dj and he loves his. i have a pair also and think that the $700 i paid was well worth my cash lol

s_k 04-22-2011 11:36 AM

... --> Three dots to express I obviously don't agree.
A hype is never worth the cash ;)

ThePhanastasio 04-22-2011 11:56 AM

IMO, Beats by Dr. Dre are NICE headphones, but not at all worth the price tag. Dropping $130 on AKG K240 MKII headphones will get you comparable quality for a fraction of the ridiculous price tag - and the mix won't be oversaturated with the low end as with the Beats headphones.

Beats > Bose, I suppose, but I still wouldn't spend that much for an inferior product.

s_k 04-22-2011 12:00 PM

Pretty much every brand > Bose.
For both headphones and home-speakers.
They have some nice PA and Car speakers, but apart from that. Avoid it like your mother in law.

It's exactly like Sara says here: Beats aren't necessarily bad, but they cost at least four times what a comparable AKG or Beyerdynamic or certain Sony's cost. You pay for Dre. Not for soundqualité.
They're made for Dre-like music. Loads of low-end. Mix your **** on these things and you will end up with too much mid and a ****load of bass.
For me there's only one 'brand' and that's AKG. But if you are into acoustic/vocals, be sure to consider the Beyer DT100's and Sennheiser HD25. Real monitor headphones, very good for solo instruments or acoustic music. If you want to make a great mix of multiple instruments, have a look at a proper AKG Hifi headphones. They are really honest and uncoloured.

Noah Bonez 06-07-2011 04:41 AM

bose noise cancelling headphones are really great

Zamyotov 06-12-2011 02:38 PM

Audio Technica ATH m50 - $150

http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/a...-33899646.html

I have a pair of these and recommend them highly.


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