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thedaytripper 07-08-2008 06:41 PM

Fender's Bender?
 
Let's talk about these fender heavy relic stratocasters. they are classic american strats with a worn paint finish, aged hardware, custom 1969 pickups, and cigarette burns on the headstock. they were built to recreate the national anthem played at woodstock by jimi hendrix. they are descent guitar, they play beautifully, but i really dont think they are worth the retail price of $4000.


Opinions?

mr dave 07-08-2008 07:13 PM

no one ever buys a highly detailed custom finish guitar for the tone. it's a status symbol first, musical instrument second.

it's also a hell of a lot cheaper than the EVH frankenstein replica.

GuitarBizarre 07-09-2008 05:16 PM

For me, any fender not built to be played, is synonymous with failure.

As such, I will never own a custom shop fender, regardless how rich I ever become. The only exception would be as Mr Dave said, to take advantage of collectors value.

mr dave 07-09-2008 05:28 PM

just to add a little clarification. i don't mean any custom or signature guitar is necessarily bad. most of the name guitars are worthwhile.

the problem occurs when it goes from being a guitar setup like a recognizable guitarist's (eric clapton for example) to being a replica (like the 'hendrix' strat)

lucifer_sam 07-09-2008 06:26 PM

I'm one of the people under that "complete bullsh!t" mentality. I saw in GuitarCenter's catalog they had an SRV replica priced at $17,000.

Replica. $17K. Shenanigans.

mr dave 07-09-2008 07:12 PM

it's still cheaper than the EVH haha

Buy EVH Eddie Van Halen Frankenstein Replica Electric Guitar

Farfisa 07-10-2008 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 496634)

Whoever that purchases this guitar is a dumbass...

Whatsitoosit 07-10-2008 08:44 AM

I owned a Fender Closet Classic for a couple of months before finally selling it... I really did love the guitar but psychologically I couldn't get past the fact the guitar was built to look like it was already beat up and I spent $2000 on it. Plus I was younger and kind of needed the money, one day I would like to get a nice Fender that looks brand new so I can beat it up :)

Also, Mr. Dave... the $100 Rondo Special is playing beautifully still, been recording a lot with it :)

mr dave 07-10-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 496706)
I owned a Fender Closet Classic for a couple of months before finally selling it... I really did love the guitar but psychologically I couldn't get past the fact the guitar was built to look like it was already beat up and I spent $2000 on it. Plus I was younger and kind of needed the money, one day I would like to get a nice Fender that looks brand new so I can beat it up :)

Also, Mr. Dave... the $100 Rondo Special is playing beautifully still, been recording a lot with it :)


great to hear hehe, was kind of curious about how that ultra cheapy was working out hehe.

and i'm totally with you on wearing down the instrument yourself. the first dings in my strat kind of bugged me (even if it's just a mexican) but now they're starting to give it character hehe

just a side note... that EVH guitar was a very limited production run 200-300 max. you'd still have to be a super cheese ball yuppie to get one though.

spook 07-17-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 496790)
great to hear hehe, was kind of curious about how that ultra cheapy was working out hehe.

and i'm totally with you on wearing down the instrument yourself. the first dings in my strat kind of bugged me (even if it's just a mexican) but now they're starting to give it character hehe

just a side note... that EVH guitar was a very limited production run 200-300 max. you'd still have to be a super cheese ball yuppie to get one though.

I've never understood why anyone would pay huge amounts of money for a new guitar that looks beaten up.
Pay much less and hit the used guitar part of any music store or hock shop and get the "Real Deal" - something with genuine class. Bear in mind, the older the wood, the better the tone.

mr dave 07-17-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spook (Post 498351)
I've never understood why anyone would pay huge amounts of money for a new guitar that looks beaten up.

ego. it's like people who buy huge ass 4x4 trucks to drive them around their suburbs and freak out when they go through a little bit of mud.

at the same time not all custom finishes are insanely priced either. my cousin has a joe strummer tele that only cost maybe $200 more than a regular model. he's got nicer guitars (like a custom PRS) but the tele sounded better in his band and he liked the pre-worn look, so why not?

spook 07-18-2008 07:08 AM

At the end of the day, I suppose it's whatever floats your boat, and if you're stupid / wealthy enough to pay for an expensive fake, or you REALLY must have that replica as a showpiece, then why not?

Must admit I had a hankering for a short while for the Alvin Lee Gibson 335 rep. and the Fender Rory Gallagher rep. - if I ever won the lottery........, but my common sense side said "You can have a really good luthier- built guitar to your exact spec, a full flight case, and plenty of change for some extra toys.

...That was the clincher:p:

Whatsitoosit 07-18-2008 07:49 AM

The only replica I have purchased and will ever purchase is the Burns Brian May guitar. I grabbed it for $600 which was a good deal and it's an ok guitar, nothing amazing. All the different pickup combinations (in or out of phase) makes it pretty versatile and it plays pretty good. I still love the Strat though, must be psychological :)

spook 07-18-2008 08:00 AM

For me, you can't beat a good Strat or Tele, especially after it's been "played in" for a few years.
Like Gibsons, but always felt them to be a bit too "fragile".
I must say, though, for the price, the Big Two's quality control leaves a little to be desired.
Check out Vintage guitars - really great value for money, and as good as many "Classic" guitars.


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