Gibson Guitar Petition

theairwasthick · 09-14-2011, 07:50 PM

Sorry to spam but I think this is worth it.

Apparently the US Government has seized a **** load of wood and stuff from Gibson on the grounds that they obtained it in such a way the breaches the Lacey Act, it's bull****.

You need to sign this

Petition: The President of the United States: Resolve Gibson Guitar Inquiry, Protect Consumers, and Make Lacey Act Fair | Change.org

Mykonos · 09-15-2011, 12:37 AM

So a rich company illegally and unethically obtains wood, and we're supposed to support them on it?

Mrd00d · 09-15-2011, 03:12 AM

I'm not sure what you read Mykonos, but from what I read on the petition there:

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On Wednesday, August 24th, 2011, agents for the U.S. government executed four search warrants on Gibson Guitar’s facilities in Nashville and Memphis, Tennessee, and seized several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. The raids forced Gibson to cease manufacturing operations and send workers home for the day while armed agents of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service executed the search warrants for ebony and rosewood that was imported from India.

The federal officials claim that Gibson violated the Lacey Act, which stipulates that a company cannot import wood in a manner that’s against the laws of the country the wood is coming from. However, Gibson has complied with Indian law and no concerns have been raised by the Indian government.

“Agents seized wood that was Forest Stewardship Council controlled,” Gibson Guitar Chairman and CEO Henry Juszkiewicz said. “Gibson has a long history of supporting sustainable and responsible sources of wood and has worked diligently with entities such as the Rainforest Alliance and Greenpeace to secure FSC-certified supplies. The wood seized on August 24 satisfied FSC standards.”

Juszkiewicz believes that the Justice Department is bullying Gibson without filing charges. This is the second time Gibson has been raided by the federal government (the first was in 2009), yet no charges have been filed and the materials confiscated on both occasions remain in federal hands.

Gibson is reaching out to all Gibson Guitar fans, Gibson Guitar dealers, artists, musicians, members of the media, bloggers, politicians and anyone who loves the guitar to sign this petition and demand:

I thought it worth signing.

lucifer_sam · 09-15-2011, 09:45 AM

Fuck that shit. If a company is using unethical practices to obtain resources like that, they need to be responsible for themselves. I don't care whether they are manufacturing Les Pauls or toothpicks.

GuitarBizarre · 09-15-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Fuck that shit. If a company is using unethical practices to obtain resources like that, they need to be responsible for themselves. I don't care whether they are manufacturing Les Pauls or toothpicks.

They most likely AREN'T.

I hate gibson guitars, but this whole situation revolves around the fact gibson's wood isn't finished in the country of origin. They buy it when its 2/3rds finished and clean it up in the US.

They've done nothing wrong, unless you're trying to say they're evil for buying exactly what india is happy to sell them.

Phantom Limb · 09-15-2011, 12:40 PM

We can't just let our government bully whoever they want. Signing the petition seems like the right thing to do to me.

Necromancer · 09-15-2011, 05:42 PM

Are we talking about wood to supply American Made Guitars?

This is not anything like importing/buying "Blood Diamonds" in my opinion.

Jobs are very precious, at this particular time here in the states.

They should leave Gibson alone and concentrate on more important issues.

BastardofYoung · 09-15-2011, 11:38 PM

awww, an internet petition. how cute.

somebody should now make a petition to make internet petitions legally binding and worth anything at all in the eyes of the law.

crazy I-Generation.

Dr_Rez · 09-25-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

awww, an internet petition. how cute.

somebody should now make a petition to make internet petitions legally binding and worth anything at all in the eyes of the law.

crazy I-Generation.

Its a way of acting like your doing something and care while committing no time or resources. Like on facebook people make their stats "Post this and this child who is sick will get this amount of money" blah blah. Its all bull**** for people who dont really give a **** and have it easy.

GuitarBizarre · 09-27-2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Its a way of acting like your doing something and care while committing no time or resources. Like on facebook people make their stats "Post this and this child who is sick will get this amount of money" blah blah. Its all bull**** for people who dont really give a **** and have it easy.

slacktivism.

09-14-2011, 07:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
theairwasthick Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 49	Gibson Guitar Petition Sorry to spam but I think this is worth it. Apparently the US Government has seized a ** load of wood and stuff from Gibson on the grounds that they obtained it in such a way the breaches the Lacey Act, it's bull**. You need to sign this Petition: The President of the United States: Resolve Gibson Guitar Inquiry, Protect Consumers, and Make Lacey Act Fair \| Change.org

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Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	So a rich company illegally and unethically obtains wood, and we're supposed to support them on it? __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

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lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Fuck that shit. If a company is using unethical practices to obtain resources like that, they need to be responsible for themselves. I don't care whether they are manufacturing Les Pauls or toothpicks. __________________ first.am

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	awww, an internet petition. how cute. somebody should now make a petition to make internet petitions legally binding and worth anything at all in the eyes of the law. crazy I-Generation. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

09-15-2011, 05:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Are we talking about wood to supply American Made Guitars? This is not anything like importing/buying "Blood Diamonds" in my opinion. Jobs are very precious, at this particular time here in the states. They should leave Gibson alone and concentrate on more important issues.