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Latoucannie 10-07-2012 04:26 PM

Guitar' strings!!
 
Hellooo everyone!

I would like to know if there is a big difference between the sound of a classical guitar with nylon strings and a classical with metal strings

Thanks a lot!

GuitarBizarre 10-07-2012 04:43 PM

Don't put steel strings on a classical guitar. They aren't designed for the extra tension, and the top will warp and twist over time if it doesn't rip the bridge right off.

If your guitar is a classical or flamenco, buy the proper nylon sets. If your guitar is a more common, steel strung acoustic type, like a martin or breedlove, then buy normal acoustic strings, either 80/20 Phosphor bronze or similar.

blastingas10 10-07-2012 05:36 PM

Anyone got any recommendations on strings for a semi-hollow epiphone with a slightly high action? I just can't find anything that feels right on it.

I've never really come across any strings that really stand out to me as Being really good, but I will say that the "titanium coated" Ernie ball strings are completely horrible. Never has a string stood out to me as being so ****ty, and they were the most expensive strings in the store.

GuitarBizarre 10-07-2012 06:36 PM

I've used elixer nanowebs on my electrics for years. Although realistically, most strings when new are fine. If brand new strings feel bad to you, the guitar is probably the issue.

blastingas10 10-07-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1238490)
I've used elixer nanowebs on my electrics for years. Although realistically, most strings when new are fine. If brand new strings feel bad to you, the guitar is probably the issue.

It's not the guitar, although it maybe could use a slight truss rod adjustment. I've used multiple different strings on this guitar and none have ever felt so bad. They were just so poppy, that's the only way I can describe. Brittle and poppy (or snappy) if that makes any sense. They weren't light gauge either, they were regular.

Burning Down 10-07-2012 08:07 PM

Maybe the guitar needs to be set up again.

blastingas10 10-08-2012 01:36 AM

What exactly do you mean?

GuitarBizarre 10-08-2012 04:49 AM

The way a guitar plays is influenced by action, truss rod, pickup settings, etc.

Dozens if not hundreds of variables, of which strings are only one small part.

I can tell when strings are new or worn, but frankly in 12 years I've never said "Oh these strings make my guitar play bad".

Action and so on being looked at by a tech is where I'd go if I had that problem. Its also likely your guitar needs a fret level if you've played it for a long time without a tech seeing it. A lot of guitars need tech attention from new, even.

mr dave 10-08-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1238497)
It's not the guitar, although it maybe could use a slight truss rod adjustment. I've used multiple different strings on this guitar and none have ever felt so bad. They were just so poppy, that's the only way I can describe. Brittle and poppy (or snappy) if that makes any sense. They weren't light gauge either, they were regular.

I've never been happy with Ernie Ball strings either and would describe them similar to the way you did. What sort of tone and feel are you looking for? With a semi-hollow I'd personally be aiming for a smoother jazzy feel and go with flat or ribbon wound strings.

Burning Down 10-08-2012 07:47 AM

Yeah I hate Ernie Ball strings. I'll go for anything but those, really.

blastingas10 10-08-2012 03:53 PM

I read an article by roger Mayer in which he claimed that which strings you used affected your tone even more than pickups. Maybe I can find it again

GuitarBizarre 10-08-2012 07:05 PM

If he's talking about guage, hes got a point. Thick strings are a big effect on sound versus thin strings. Stevie Ray Vaughan played on 13s but was known to use as thick as 18 in the studio for tone.

But thats as far as you can take that. Nobody but a lunatic would ever suggest that, say, d'addario strings sounded super different to ernie ball or fender strings. The differences between brands are marginal at best. The differences between guage are massive but entirely independent of brand.

blastingas10 10-08-2012 07:19 PM

Yes, he was talking about gauge.

Here's the article.

Interview with Roger Mayer: The Secrets of Jimi Hendrix's Guitar Setup | Guitar World

mr dave 10-13-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1238751)
d'addario strings sounded super different to ernie ball or fender strings. The differences between brands are marginal at best.

Maybe tone wise but as far as quality goes I've probably bought 8-10 packs of Ernie Ball strings ever and popped more of those than almost 20 years worth of d'Addarios.

GuitarBizarre 10-13-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1239902)
Maybe tone wise but as far as quality goes I've probably bought 8-10 packs of Ernie Ball strings ever and popped more of those than almost 20 years worth of d'Addarios.

Oh yeah, no doubt.

But when brand spanking new, I don't think any set of standard, nickel plated 10-46 strings, can be reasonably identified as different.

Obviously metallurgy, treatment, coating, etc, will all affect the lifespan of a string, and how it weathers abuse and playing, but it generally should be the case that they're very similar otherwise.

And even then, the differences are marginal until the strings are worn out and rusty. I know you like to keep the strings on a long time for that "dead" sound, whereas I use Elixer's precisely to keep the new "zing", so that will factor into it I'm sure. I can count the number of guitar strings I've ever broken on one hand, of any brand.

mr dave 10-13-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1239915)
I know you like to keep the strings on a long time for that "dead" sound, whereas I use Elixer's precisely to keep the new "zing", so that will factor into it I'm sure. I can count the number of guitar strings I've ever broken on one hand, of any brand.

This is true, but no Ernie Balls lasted long enough to lose the sheen. What I'd really like to be able to get is half and half packs. Dead sounding low strings and super clear highs. I just really can't stand the brightness of a new low-E etc.

Burning Down 10-14-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeBos (Post 1240461)
I play ernie ball and have been for years. I hear alot of people hate them and say they break, but they last longer than any other strings ive tried. Ive tried DR pure blues a couple times, fender bullits a few times and it feels like everything else. Is there something else I should try or any other preferences or opinions?

Elixir strings are what I use generally. They last awhile and maintain good tone quality.

blastingas10 11-16-2012 11:24 PM

So I'm trying to adjust the action on my epiphone dot. I take the truss rod cover off and give it a try but the damn thing is impossible to reach with the angle I'm given. There has to be a way. Any suggestions?

GrapeSoda 11-19-2012 06:59 PM

How did you guys learn to setup a guitar? Specifically truss rod adjustments. I want to know how to do it properly. Can I learn how to do it through an online resource without ****ing up my guitar? I hear that truss rod adjustments are a very feeling based kind of procedure.

mr dave 11-24-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GrapeSoda (Post 1252223)
How did you guys learn to setup a guitar? Specifically truss rod adjustments. I want to know how to do it properly. Can I learn how to do it through an online resource without ****ing up my guitar? I hear that truss rod adjustments are a very feeling based kind of procedure.

The main thing to remember is to not tighten the rod too much while making adjustments. Most sites and resources will recommend no more than a 1/4 to a 1/2 rotation before rechecking the balance of the neck.

The other golden rule when it comes to doing maintenance on your instrument is - if you don't feel comfortable doing it, then don't. While you 'can' seriously mess up your guitar via the truss rod you'd have to seriously screw that thing into the neck and ignore a lot of warning signs first.

Voojaday 02-25-2013 10:30 AM

I have an old (1936) Epiphone solid top with f holes, and the action is a bit high too. But I found that I like the way it sounds best with bronze strings, I use medium gauge, for better action and feel. For deals on strings and stuff go to thefretlessmusician.webs.com

ZipLine 03-09-2013 04:33 PM

I play Elixir; coated heavy guage.

DropThaSystem 03-11-2013 05:38 PM

What are some good strings to get for a Roy Clark Signature acoustic guitar?

Necromancer 03-11-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1240462)
Elixir strings are what I use generally. They last awhile and maintain good tone quality.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZipLine (Post 1295751)
I play Elixir; coated heavy guage.

I used GHS Boomers on acoustic/electric until I discovered Elixir. Still play Boomers on the Bass, hard to beat that crisp sound the Boomers produce.


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