Come on, we should be above genre slagging here.

For the record, I listen to a lot of music which isn't prog, and yes I do like Modest Mouse...

How the heck is prog boring? I think there is more going on in prog then there is in power metal, hardcore, and horror punk combined.

I think our plucky young friend means that all that **** going on isn't intesting, its movement for the sake of function, its robotic, it moves in directions because it should, because thats how the music goes. Theres no art to it. Prog music mostly walks or dirves, and when it drives it stays the speed limit, changing lanes only when signaling and always with a seat belt on.

Other genres seem to waltz, strut, stumble, sprint, and sometimes roll, and they could drive but its usually a jalope or a rocket ship and they might have added a seat belt, but they didn't see how that made getting there any faster or fun...

Or maybe he didn't mean that at all. I'm just sayin'

No thats exactly what I meant.

/waits for boo boo to point out I listen to Modest Mouse

You could say punk is simple or anti-prog for the sake of it as well. But it's not true.

You could say a lot of alt rock bands are pretentious for having unnecessarily long song tracks. But it's not true.

You could say jazz exists for the purpose of having different chord progressions. But it's not true.

In the same way, to stating that prog is long/technical for the sake of it isn't true.

You know alot about punk obviously.

Thats a pretty bad generalization that has nothing to do with music.

Cause jazz is the only genre that has different chord progressions right?

I don't find prog interesting, I find it boring and all the same and very unpassionate sounding. All of the solos seem to drag on and on for the sake of it, which is my biggest problem with all these metal bands everyone around here hypes. I don't find it interesting at all I find it boring and robotic.

You obviously don't know the slighest f*cking thing about prog.

Aside from having stolen that comment from pretentious Pitchfork reviews 101, everything you just said is about as well informed as Michael Savages opinions on foreign affairs... I'll gladly disect your words as they are simply begging for criticism.

You don't even know what music is do you? It is movement for the sake of function. Its organized sound that is composed in 3 ways (Melody, Harmony and Rhythm), there is absolutely nothing else music needs to be, and if you think there is you're a fool. Thinking that music needs "feeling, passion, emotion" and a whole bunch of other completely subjective, immeasurable bullsh*t is just a poor way of justifying your ignorance.

I take it that what you mean by this is that if a band actually knows how to read sheet music, and they play what they read, it's robotic... Not all music has to be f*cking careless half written, half performed punk rock anthems with badly out of tuned guitars, some music is just programed, like classical and electronica, but prog of course puts a lot of emphasis on improvisation, so once again you don't even have the slightest idea what you are talking about.

So if music functions like music, it sucks?

There is art in everything, just because you don't like it dosen't mean it isn't art, I think Jackson Pollock is the worst painter of all time, but I can't deny the fact that he is an artist, so don't tell me George Seurat wasn't an artist just because he had the audacity to actually apply technical know-how and discipline to his work.

Clearly we have very different preferences in art... You prefer music that suggests modernism and absract expressionism (which I dispise, but wont deny as an art form) where no discipline and just a vague understanding of the painting process is required while I prefer music that suggests impressionism and post-impressionism where at least some discipline and craftsmanship is key... The main difference here is I only talk about my preference and bands I think are either good or bad regardless of their genre, because I don't think a genre determines weither a band will be good or not. You talk about a whole bunch of unnecessary restrictions and what music should and shouldn't be... But in reality there is nothing that music needs other than the 3 things that make the basis for all music theory, which is Melody, Harmony and Rhythm.

Its really funny, you're giving out all these made up rules that need to be followed in order to make "good" music, but at the same time praise forms of music like punk for not following the rules... Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

Horrible analogy... You're implying that we should all disobey traffic laws. What are you, an anarchist?

Really? I think he was implying that prog should drink more booze.

Wakeman drunk all the booze.