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~~The Unfan~~ · 09-19-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

and they don't have free will.

This is an interesting statement. How are you defining our (as in human) free will and what aspect of it do other animals lack?

~~Fyrenza~~ · 09-19-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

animals are colour blind.
and they don't have free will.

cats and dogs are not color blind

~~ADELE~~ · 09-19-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

This is an interesting statement. How are you defining our (as in human) free will and what aspect of it do other animals lack?

While we could go on discussing what you believe to be racism I know your views are not likely to change and if you want to hold those views then so be it.
If you want to back it up with science then so be it.
But anyone who is half decent will know that people who carry hate have alot to answer for in our world and are usually the ones who deny it when held to account.
You beleive what you want to beleive maybe you were bullied at school by blacks.
I on the other hand kicked **** out of bullies and thus don't carry on holding silly views about them all.
Just better you admit you hate blacks and let it be.

~~The Unfan~~ · 09-19-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

While we could go on discussing what you believe to be racism I know your views are not likely to change and if you want to hold those views then so be it.
If you want to back it up with science then so be it.
But anyone who is half decent will know that people who carry hate have alot to answer for in our world and are usually the ones who deny it when held to account.
You beleive what you want to beleive maybe you were bullied at school by blacks.
I on the other hand kicked **** out of bullies and thus don't carry on holding silly views about them all.
Just better you admit you hate blacks and let it be.

You are either the worst troll or the biggest dumbass ever.

right-track · 09-19-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

Just better you admit you hate blacks and let it be.

You stop putting words into peoples mouths...

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

You are either the worst troll or the biggest dumbass ever.

...and you quit the name calling please.

~~ADELE~~ · 09-19-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

This is an interesting statement. How are you defining our (as in human) free will and what aspect of it do other animals lack?

self awareness.
hold your pet in front of the mirror and they will look everywhere but not at themselves.
They are not aware of themselves.
and they are colour blind I assure you.
if they were they could plan like we do.

**Janszoon** · 09-19-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

hold your pet in front of the mirror and they will look everywhere but not at themselves.

I take it you've never had birds.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 09-19-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

and they are colour blind I assure you.

it wasn't something up for debate

it's scientific fact that they can see some colors albeit not as vividly as we do

~~The Unfan~~ · 09-20-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

self awareness.

How is self awareness required for free will? You can process thought without awareness.

Double X · 09-20-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

self awareness.
hold your pet in front of the mirror and they will look everywhere but not at themselves.
They are not aware of themselves.

My cat licks her fur and scratches herself. That's pretty self aware. Maybe they don't get what mirror is, before I was born my parents had three kittens (moe, larry, and curly) and they have an old video of them attacking/playing with a mirror or each other because they see themselves and their siblings in the mirror.