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Old 09-17-2008, 07:37 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Hating something isn't caused from fear.
Yes it is, that's a different type of hatred. Hatred suggests wishing to inflict harm (not exclusively physical) or to terminate, and the main cause of that reaction is fear, it's an instinctual chemical human process.

I totally get what you're saying, but this argument seems to be (as our was) more about the definition of racism, then where and how much it exists.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:43 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Yes it is, that's a different type of hatred. Hatred suggests wishing to inflict harm (not exclusively physical) or to terminate, and the main cause of that reaction is fear, it's an instinctual chemical human process.
Not necessarily, and I will explain. Going back to the deaf Canadian example we could transfer that logic here. If all of your experience with [insert race here] showed that [race] had property A and you really dislike property A than it is totally justifiable to hate [race].

If all my run ins with blacks (We'll say 200) showed that black people are always in Cadillacs and I really hate Cadillacs than it is understandable why I wouldn't like being around black people. It isn't really a fear of Cadillacs as much as just not liking them.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:50 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Not necessarily, and I will explain. Going back to the deaf Canadian example we could transfer that logic here. If all of your experience with [insert race here] showed that [race] had property A and you really dislike property A than it is totally justifiable to hate [race].

If all my run ins with blacks (We'll say 200) showed that black people are always in Cadillacs and I really hate Cadillacs than it is understandable why I wouldn't like being around black people. It isn't really a fear of Cadillacs as much as just not liking them.
dig it.

I don't think those examples make you racist though.

Unless property A is their race\origins\religion\creed etc. it's not inherently racist\prejudice.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:17 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:16 AM   #126 (permalink)
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there is nothing wrong with racism.
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Not necessarily, and I will explain. Going back to the deaf Canadian example we could transfer that logic here. If all of your experience with [insert race here] showed that [race] had property A and you really dislike property A than it is totally justifiable to hate [race].

If all my run ins with blacks (We'll say 200) showed that black people are always in Cadillacs and I really hate Cadillacs than it is understandable why I wouldn't like being around black people. It isn't really a fear of Cadillacs as much as just not liking them.
I said it once and Ill say it again. This would make sense if you were a robot or a baby...but considering you have free will and are an intelligent sentient being, you can differentiate between the black people and the cadillac...I hate mini vans but it doesnt mean I hate moms...because I choose to think.
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I said it once and Ill say it again. This would make sense if you were a robot or a baby...but considering you have free will and are an intelligent sentient being, you can differentiate between the black people and the cadillac...I hate mini vans but it doesnt mean I hate moms...because I choose to think.
The Cadillac was just a random trait.

If I hate Swedish accents than it is understandable that I'd dislike talking to Swedish people.
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:10 PM   #128 (permalink)
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The Cadillac was just a random trait.

If I hate Swedish accents than it is understandable that I'd dislike talking to Swedish people.
Thats still dumb, its still putting more emphasis on physical qualities of a person than the content of their character, which is being prejudiced no matter which way you slice it. Its fine, we're all prejudiced in someway, but at least admit it.
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You could still do it with characteristics. If you've met 2,000 koreans and all of them have been the gossippy type and you're not someone who enjoys much small gossip than it wouldn't be irrational to conclude a dislike for koreans.
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But it still would because you're correlating physical traits with personality specifics, two things that are completely unrelated...
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