Why do people blame Nirvana for killing Hair Metal?

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

It wasn't one article it was pretty much every time something was printed about them.
No idea about anything online, but look for a journalist called Everett True. He led the charge.

Edit: here's a treat for you. Everett True reviewing the deluxe edition of Siamese Dream

Music columns | Smashing Pumpkins | There are lines in the sand ... and then there are lines in the sand | COLLAPSE BOARD

haha, I'll look in to it and check that link out too.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

"Zero" will always be one of my all-time favorite songs though. That riff is amazing. **** "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" though. Never gave a **** about it even when I liked them. What a retarded name too. "Hey, guys! I'm a ****ing poet! Look how ****ing poety my song title is!"

To be fair. Billy Corgan wasn't too shabby of a song writer. But he wasn't great either. He was hit and miss. Still is.

**Janszoon** · 10-04-2014, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by osnapitzlama

hi guys I'm new here

^Why is this person not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

^Why is this person not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Better ask Soulflower. She's bound to pull something out of her butt. lololololol.

TheBig3 · 10-04-2014, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I used to love them. Then I bought Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. They have some great songs, but other than that it's like they have their own distinct sound, and yet they also have none. I don't know how to explain it. Other than that 90% of their music that I've heard is dull. And their biggest hit is an imitation of "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Take that Smashing Pumpkins fans.

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

I thought that the Smashing Pumpkins at some point were regarded as some kind of weird Nirvana clone? Maybe I recall incorrectly, but it sounds right in my head. Smashing Pumpkins had some songs I really liked, but like you said, they were primarily a pretty dull band.

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

Pearl Jam tended to have more imitators than Nirvana did.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

I'm not getting it from anywhere. It was merely something I was wondering, because for some reason that thought popped in my head, and so I asked about it here since The Smashing Pumpkins came up in the discussion.

**Janszoon** · 10-04-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

Pearl Jam tended to have more imitators than Nirvana did.

I've never heard anyone say that either. Bush? Yes. Smashing Pumpkins? No. They don't sound anything like Nirvana at all.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I've never heard anyone say that either. Bush? Yes. Smashing Pumpkins? No. They don't sound anything like Nirvana at all.

Can you really knock Bush too much for having their influence of Nirvana being forefront in their music? Bush didn't make half bad music at all, some of it is pretty good and they've been my favorite grunge band for many, many years.

They're not so much a grunge band these days, not really. More like a mainstream rock/pop band with grunge tendencies.

**Janszoon** · 10-04-2014, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Can you really knock Bush too much for having their influence of Nirvana being forefront in their music?

Yes, of course I can.

That wasn't my point though. My point was that it was Bush, not Smashing Pumpkins, who were frequently derided as being a Nirvana knockoff during the 90s.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes, of course I can.

That wasn't my point though. My point was that it was Bush, not Smashing Pumpkins, who were frequently derided as being a Nirvana knockoff during the 90s.

I guess in my mind, Bush were more than a band that had a heavy Nirvana sound to their music.

But you're right, now that you point it out for me. Bush was definitely the band that a lot of people were saying were a Nirvana clone. Even I thought that, still I found that I liked their music, and so I listened, and still do.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-04-2014, 08:51 AM

Ahhh Bush, the British band nobody in Britain had heard of until they sold about 10 million albums in the States.
And it still didn't make us care one iota.

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