Why do people blame Nirvana for killing Hair Metal?

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 01:32 AM

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I used to love them. Then I bought Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. They have some great songs, but other than that it's like they have their own distinct sound, and yet they also have none. I don't know how to explain it. Other than that 90% of their music is dull. And their biggest hit is an imitation of "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Take that Smashing Pumpkins fans.

I thought that the Smashing Pumpkins at some point were regarded as some kind of weird Nirvana clone? Maybe I recall incorrectly, but it sounds right in my head. Smashing Pumpkins had some songs I really liked, but like you said, they were primarily a pretty dull band.

TheBig3 · 10-04-2014, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I used to love them. Then I bought Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. They have some great songs, but other than that it's like they have their own distinct sound, and yet they also have none. I don't know how to explain it. Other than that 90% of their music that I've heard is dull. And their biggest hit is an imitation of "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Take that Smashing Pumpkins fans.

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

I thought that the Smashing Pumpkins at some point were regarded as some kind of weird Nirvana clone? Maybe I recall incorrectly, but it sounds right in my head. Smashing Pumpkins had some songs I really liked, but like you said, they were primarily a pretty dull band.

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

Pearl Jam tended to have more imitators than Nirvana did.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

I'm not getting it from anywhere. It was merely something I was wondering, because for some reason that thought popped in my head, and so I asked about it here since The Smashing Pumpkins came up in the discussion.

**Janszoon** · 10-04-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

Pearl Jam tended to have more imitators than Nirvana did.

I've never heard anyone say that either. Bush? Yes. Smashing Pumpkins? No. They don't sound anything like Nirvana at all.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 07:41 AM

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I've never heard anyone say that either. Bush? Yes. Smashing Pumpkins? No. They don't sound anything like Nirvana at all.

Can you really knock Bush too much for having their influence of Nirvana being forefront in their music? Bush didn't make half bad music at all, some of it is pretty good and they've been my favorite grunge band for many, many years.

They're not so much a grunge band these days, not really. More like a mainstream rock/pop band with grunge tendencies.

**Janszoon** · 10-04-2014, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Can you really knock Bush too much for having their influence of Nirvana being forefront in their music?

Yes, of course I can.

That wasn't my point though. My point was that it was Bush, not Smashing Pumpkins, who were frequently derided as being a Nirvana knockoff during the 90s.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 07:53 AM

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Yes, of course I can.

That wasn't my point though. My point was that it was Bush, not Smashing Pumpkins, who were frequently derided as being a Nirvana knockoff during the 90s.

I guess in my mind, Bush were more than a band that had a heavy Nirvana sound to their music.

But you're right, now that you point it out for me. Bush was definitely the band that a lot of people were saying were a Nirvana clone. Even I thought that, still I found that I liked their music, and so I listened, and still do.

The Batlord · 10-04-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I've been paying attention to music of a long time - I've never heard this. Where are you guys getting it from?

Pearl Jam tended to have more imitators than Nirvana did.

I just said that one song was a Nirvana ripoff. It sounds almost nothing like their other songs, as they never really went in for the whole quiet verse, LOUD-AS-****-CHORUS thing.

**Janszoon** · 10-04-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I just said that one song was a Nirvana ripoff. It sounds almost nothing like their other songs, as they never really went in for the whole quiet verse, LOUD-AS-****-CHORUS thing.

Which song are you referring to?

The Batlord · 10-04-2014, 03:06 PM

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Which song are you referring to?

Oops. "Bullet with Butterfly Wings".