Why do we hate music we hate?

Trollheart · 08-26-2017, 01:03 PM

Or in other words, why does it annoy us so much that certain music we hate happens to exist? I'm asking this after reading the excellent and funny http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...out-music.html from our late friend Urban, and I of course realise that much of what he wrote is to be taken tongue-in-cheek, but it did set me to thinking.

Why does it annoy us that say bands like Dragonforce or Tool or [insert hated band here] exist? Or that a certain genre or subgenre we hate is liked by others ? Obviously, nobody is ever going to like ALL music, but why put down that which we don't like? Nobody here - no individual, and no group - can be the ultimate arbiter of taste, so while I might hate hip-hop or jazz, and you might hate prog rock, why does its existence offend so?

It's not the same in other arenas. Sport, to some extent, yes, but that's more a case of rivalries between teams, states or counties. But if you hate horror movies, you don't watch them. If you like science-fiction books but hate trashy romance, you don't read the latter. If medical dramas get up your nose you don't look at them. But we don't complain about the existence of any of these things: we accept they're there, but don't try to put them down. They simply don't matter to us. We have no interest in them. If others like them, fine, but we don't. And that's the end of it.

So why do we tend to froth at the mouth about music we hate? Why is it so important? Radio? Well nobody's forcing us to listen, and there are surely thousands of stations we can choose from. Fans of these bands or genres? Quite possibly. But if we don't like certain music, why do we feel the need to put it down? Why can't we just accept it's not for us and move on? What is it about music that polarises opinion in a way few if any other subjects do?

GD · 08-26-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Or in other words, why does it annoy us so much that certain music we hate happens to exist? I'm asking this after reading the excellent and funny http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...out-music.html from our late friend Urban, and I of course realise that much of what he wrote is to be taken tongue-in-cheek, but it did set me to thinking.

Didn't give me credit, bish
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Originally Posted by Gigantic Debaser

Cool find. It reminded me of my favorite necro-threads, which surpassed 100 entries: http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...out-music.html

**Janszoon** · 08-26-2017, 01:37 PM

I hate it because it's terrible.

**Frownland** · 08-26-2017, 01:42 PM

The music I hate is the worst.

The Batlord · 08-26-2017, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I'm asking this after reading the excellent and funny http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...out-music.html from our late friend Urban, and I of course realise that much of what he wrote is to be taken tongue-in-cheek, but it did set me to thinking.

RIP Urban

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 08-26-2017, 01:54 PM

The only kind of music I have a more-or-less blanket "hatred" of is rap, and the reason I dislike it is because it has more-or-less eliminated melody. I find that to be obnoxious to listen to. The rhythms themselves can be interesting, and a lot of non-rap in the past 15-20 seems to have adopted those kinds of rhythms successfully while still maintaining a melody. But once you eliminate the actual melody from the singing it sounds like somebody yakking away at me which really turns me off. I don't find somebody yakking away at me to be very entertaining.

**Janszoon** · 08-26-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

The only kind of music I have a more-or-less blanket "hatred" of is rap, and the reason I dislike it is because it has more-or-less eliminated melody. I find that to be obnoxious to listen to. The rhythms themselves can be interesting, and a lot of non-rap in the past 15-20 seems to have adopted those kinds of rhythms successfully while still maintaining a melody. But once you eliminate the actual melody from the singing it sounds like somebody yakking away at me which really turns me off. I don't find somebody yakking away at me to be very entertaining.

Most rap music does actually have melody though.

Chula Vista · 08-26-2017, 02:33 PM

A LOT of people like peas. I don't like peas.
A LOT of people like baked beans. I don't like baked beans.
A LOT of people like going to baseball games. I don't.
A number of people like Coprophagy. I don't like Coprophagy.

A LOT of people like The Grateful Dead. I hate The Grateful Dead.

It is what it is. It either gets you off, or it doesn't.

Paul Smeenus · 08-26-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

A LOT of people like The Grateful Dead. I hate The Dreadful Grate.

ftfy

The Batlord · 08-26-2017, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

A LOT of people like peas. I don't like peas.
A LOT of people like baked beans. I don't like baked beans.
A LOT of people like going to baseball games. I don't.
A number of people like Coprophagy. I don't like Coprophagy.

A LOT of people like The Grateful Dead. I hate The Grateful Dead.

It is what it is. It either gets you off, or it doesn't.

How the **** are you from Boston and you don't like baked beans?

08-26-2017, 01:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Why do we hate music we hate? Or in other words, why does it annoy us so much that certain music we hate happens to exist? I'm asking this after reading the excellent and funny http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...out-music.html from our late friend Urban, and I of course realise that much of what he wrote is to be taken tongue-in-cheek, but it did set me to thinking. Why does it annoy us that say bands like Dragonforce or Tool or [insert hated band here] exist? Or that a certain genre or subgenre we hate is liked by others ? Obviously, nobody is ever going to like ALL music, but why put down that which we don't like? Nobody here - no individual, and no group - can be the ultimate arbiter of taste, so while I might hate hip-hop or jazz, and you might hate prog rock, why does its existence offend so? It's not the same in other arenas. Sport, to some extent, yes, but that's more a case of rivalries between teams, states or counties. But if you hate horror movies, you don't watch them. If you like science-fiction books but hate trashy romance, you don't read the latter. If medical dramas get up your nose you don't look at them. But we don't complain about the existence of any of these things: we accept they're there, but don't try to put them down. They simply don't matter to us. We have no interest in them. If others like them, fine, but we don't. And that's the end of it. So why do we tend to froth at the mouth about music we hate? Why is it so important? Radio? Well nobody's forcing us to listen, and there are surely thousands of stations we can choose from. Fans of these bands or genres? Quite possibly. But if we don't like certain music, why do we feel the need to put it down? Why can't we just accept it's not for us and move on? What is it about music that polarises opinion in a way few if any other subjects do? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

08-26-2017, 01:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I hate it because it's terrible. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

08-26-2017, 01:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	The music I hate is the worst. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-26-2017, 01:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,158	The only kind of music I have a more-or-less blanket "hatred" of is rap, and the reason I dislike it is because it has more-or-less eliminated melody. I find that to be obnoxious to listen to. The rhythms themselves can be interesting, and a lot of non-rap in the past 15-20 seems to have adopted those kinds of rhythms successfully while still maintaining a melody. But once you eliminate the actual melody from the singing it sounds like somebody yakking away at me which really turns me off. I don't find somebody yakking away at me to be very entertaining. __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

08-26-2017, 02:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	A LOT of people like peas. I don't like peas. A LOT of people like baked beans. I don't like baked beans. A LOT of people like going to baseball games. I don't. A number of people like Coprophagy. I don't like Coprophagy. A LOT of people like The Grateful Dead. I hate The Grateful Dead. It is what it is. It either gets you off, or it doesn't. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”