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View Poll Results: Scenario: You are offerend $50,000,000 to kill a man.
Yes 10 34.48%
No 19 65.52%
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:26 PM   #61 (permalink)
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You lot are other-thinking this. It's a hypothetical.
Consequences, morales and repercussions out of the equation, do you want £50 million?
£50 million sets you up for a playboy lifestyle for life, anything you could ever want, ever need.
Even with the les enfants terribles of consequences, morales and repercussions, I'd happily do 30 years in jail to come out to £50 million when I'd served my time, and for a hitman type job, nobodies going to serve any real time unless you live in a communist nation.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:06 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Anyone who said no is just saying that so they won't look like an asshole. I'm not saying that you necessarily would, but if you say that right off the bat then you're full of shit. It's fifty fucking million dollars. Done right you could live off that the rest of your life and never work again. This is a completely life changing amount of money. If you honestly think that you're that moral that you wouldn't even consider it then you're deluded. I'd like to say that I wouldn't but, come on. It's fifty fucking million dollars. I can send a hell of a lot of flowers to his grieving relatives with that kinda dough.
That's if you don't get caught. What's the point of having 50 mil when you might be in jail for the rest of your life.

I'm saying no. I'm just not capable of murder.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:19 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Actually a 'yes' answer makes you an opportunistic killer.
A 'no' answer makes you neither of those things.
i meant that if you happen to choose "Yes" you are either a killer or an opportunist (which yes lead to what you said)

But a killer doesn't need a motivation to kill an opportunist needs a reason.

you're right btw, i just meant i phrased wrong what i said
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:27 PM   #64 (permalink)
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You lot are other-thinking this. It's a hypothetical.
Consequences, morales and repercussions out of the equation, do you want £50 million?
£50 million sets you up for a playboy lifestyle for life, anything you could ever want, ever need.
Even with the les enfants terribles of consequences, morales and repercussions, I'd happily do 30 years in jail to come out to £50 million when I'd served my time, and for a hitman type job, nobodies going to serve any real time unless you live in a communist nation.
Woah, when did the price become 50 million pounds? That's a lot more enticing than a mere 50 million dollars.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:57 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Depends on the context.
Money really has nothing to do with it.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:58 PM   #66 (permalink)
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No, in whatever circumstance.
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Old 02-23-2013, 05:16 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Woah, when did the price become 50 million pounds? That's a lot more enticing than a mere 50 million dollars.
I took the liberty of converting it, which on today's exchange rate would be £32,977,179.79, but yes that is a fee that could buy me to do literally anything.
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Old 02-23-2013, 05:30 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I would kill a person easily, but I couldn't kill a cat tbh
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:52 AM   #69 (permalink)
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C'mon Batty, there are some people in this world that have morals and integrity. Money is the root of all evil. It is. Whether you understand it or not. I have NEVER done something for monetary gain that directly ended the life of another living thing, and I wouldn't kill a person for 50 trillion dollars, I wouldn't be able to live with myself. I'd die slow and miserably.
I've never screwed someone else for monetary or other gain in my life (at least as far as I can remember), but I think that fifty million dollars and the possible life altering changes that it could bring you is too much for you to really contemplate and it might very well temporarily "short circuit" your moral compass and make it almost impossible to think clearly. I think that if anything would stop you it wouldn't be thinking about the consequences (since I don't think you would be capable of that kind of complicated thought process at that point), it would be actually being unable to physically make yourself bring the knife across the person's throat or pull the trigger. Even if you decided to do it. You could offer me as much money as you could think of, but there's probably no way in hell I could ever force my body to jump off a high cliff into the ocean. I've seen people do it on TV so I know it's possible to do it and not die, but my body would simply cease to respond to my commands when I got anywhere near the edge of the cliff.

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As for the "doubling" that The Batlord brought up (which I don't believe is a widely accepted term among psychiatric professionals), this is totally different. The killing and torture that people do because their military higher-ups told them to is done regardless of the financial benefits they receive. Nobody working under the Nazi regime made 50 million for what they did. Most probably barely made a living wage.
Sure the specifics are different, but the concept is sound. If you can rationalize it, you can live with just about anything. It may eat away at you but still, you could probably do it. A concentration camp guard probably tells himself that this is necessary to preserve the racial purity of the German race and that however unpleasant the means may be they are necessary. I'm sure if they can do that then it would be simple for you to rationalize the murder after the fact. "My friends and family can have everything they could ever need now. And just think of all the homeless people I can feed with this money. The African villagers I can help. If I can save two people with it then does it matter that one man died for it?"

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Back on topic. I personally place this moral question in a file in my mind that I call "hypothetical decisions that I absolutely cannot make until I'm faced with them in reality" - it's a pretty large file.
That's pretty much how I feel. Given how extreme an event this would be I think the only honest answer is "I don't know." Anything else is just a guess.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:07 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Depends on what for or whether he deserved it.
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