Trollheart

Um, this is what I came up with, believe it or not: number 91 spun up.

The very, very first album and very first post in my journal, ever. Who would have believed it?

Is everyone happy with doing this or do you want me to spin again?

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Unknown Soldier

The point is to do every album whether we like it or not. The only time we shouldn't be doing a review is if it has been done before like Selling England By the Pound

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Pounding Decibels- A Hard and Heavy History

Trollheart

Fair enough, after all we did suffer through Ian Anderson's flute-u-like, so why not? This'll be easy to do for me. Expect my review ... now.

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Unknown Soldier

Years ago I used to really like Ian Anderson's flute and even went to see JT live in the 00's. Now after the reviewed album, I'd be hard pressed to even sit through one of his albums again.

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Pounding Decibels- A Hard and Heavy History

Trollheart

Album title: Seconds out
Artiste: Genesis
Nationality: British
Year: 1977
Subgenre: None; pure Progressive Rock
Player(s): Phil Collins (Lead vocals, Drums), Mike Rutherford (Guitars, Bass), Steve hackett (Guitars), Tony Banks (Keyboards), Chester Thompson/Bill Bruford (Drums) (Bruford only drums on “Cinema show”) Note: Although I'm not going to root it out of my record shelf, I'm fairly sure the album inlay mentioned and showed Daryl Steurmer on guitars too, but the Wiki entry doesn't have him listed...?
Familiarity: Like total man! Genesis are my favourite band of all time!
Favourite track(s): Supper's ready, Cinema show, Firth of Fifth, Afterglow
Why? This was the first time I ever heard “Supper's ready” and it blew my mind/ditto for the other three. This album started off my love affair with Genesis.
Least favourite track(s): “Robbery, assault and battery”
Why? I ended up identifying Genesis with mythological, classical and fantasy lyrics (wasn't far wrong!) and this song was too “ordinary” to me, too rooted in the real world. I also never liked Collins' East End accent on the coppers when he sang. I've grown to tolerate the track now but it's never been a favourite of mine.
Any preconceptions prior to listening, whether good or bad? n/a
Artwork: Not bad if a little minimalist. Certainly gives you the idea of a big stage with a serious band on it, and the lights dwarfing them always spoke to me too, the way they're almost pouring the light down on the band like rain.
Factoids you'd like to share? As I say, this was the first Genesis album I ever heard (other than a crappy cassette copy of “Foxtrot”) and so weirdly Collins was the voice I originally linked Genesis with. It is also the very first album ever to be reviewed in my journal!
Initial impression: When “Squonk” opens proceedings you know something dramatic is happening
End impression: Hard to beat the full version of “Supper's ready”, and after “Los endos” they go back into an instrumental of “Squonk” which fades out, sort of bringing the album full circle and giving you the impression that the gig never really ends.
Comments: I've written a full review of this on page one of my journal, back in 2011, but suffice to say it was the very first Genesis album, the first live album and the first progressive rock album I ever had. I think I got it in some sort of swap with a guy at work, having heard “Foxtrot” as above. Pretty sure I didn't buy it. My copy was and is on vinyl, which somehow lends more majesty I feel to the recording, though I did later get a CD copy. The versions of “Firth of Fifth”, “Cinema show, “Afterglow” and “the Lamb” are worth the price of the album alone, and then you have the massive epic “Supper's ready”, clocking it at a tremendous 24:33, and I must admit I've always preferred this version to the original with Gabriel. Who said heresy? It's also interesting to see snippets of other tracks like “The musical box” but then an extended version of “I know what I like” on the album, but I could have done without “Robbery, assault and battery”. Any other track off “Trick of the tail” would have been preferable.

This is an album I'll always love, for getting me into Genesis and via them into prog rock, and also giving me an idea what it must have been like to have been at a gig, long before I could ever afford to go to one. Some idiot who works for “Rolling Stone” apparently once said that the album was “nothing more than a recreation of their studio recordings.” I guess that lack of insight and total outright wrongness proves why he worked for that less than esteemed rag! I have yet to come across a live album on which the versions are so different from the studio ones. This showed them all how to do it!
Rating: 5.0 (Was there ever any doubt?)

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Remember that the rest of us humans have until Sunday to review this ok

I have read what you've written and I shall try and be as objective as possible when reviewing it.

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Metal Wars

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Pounding Decibels- A Hard and Heavy History

Unknown Soldier

Remember album due in by tomorrow night, so get listening as its 95mins long (yawn Phil Collins for 95 mins) but seriously for any not aware the album is an interesting documentation of a large chunk of the band's early history.

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Pounding Decibels- A Hard and Heavy History

Unknown Soldier

Album title: Seconds out
Artiste: Genesis
Nationality: British
Year: 1977
Subgenre: None; pure Progressive Rock
Player(s): Phil Collins (Lead vocals, Drums), Mike Rutherford (Guitars, Bass), Steve hackett (Guitars), Tony Banks (Keyboards), Chester Thompson/Bill Bruford (Drums) (Bruford only drums on “Cinema show”) Note: Although I'm not going to root it out of my record shelf, I'm fairly sure the album inlay mentioned and showed Daryl Steurmer on guitars too, but the Wiki entry doesn't have him listed...?
Familiarity: Early and Peter Gabriel era know very well and have most of the albums. Never cared much for the Phil Collins era, so my knowledge is patchy on the Phil Collins era.
Favourite track(s): The Carpet Crawlers, Firth of Fifth, Supper's Ready and Cinema Show.
Why? The Carpet Crawlers a calming track that flows so well. Tracks like Firth of Fifth and Supper's Ready are just quintessential Genesis and Supper's Ready has always been one of the great extended tracks from the classic prog era, where musical perfection was always expected. Cinema Show is probably one of my all time favourite tracks by the band and just so whimsical.
Least favourite track(s): Robbery, Assault and Battery
Why? As Trollheart said it's ruined by Collins' East End accent. It's meant to be I guess some kind of colloquial touch by Collins and it falls down badly. This type of this was done so much better by other British bands in the 1960s.
Any preconceptions prior to listening, whether good or bad? I knew it was a live document by the band and on previous listening years ago, I thought it was the best recording I'd heard of by the band post-Gabriel era.
Artwork: Very minimalist 1970s and yes it gives a clear clue that this could be a live album.
Factoids you'd like to share? This was the first album ever reviewed in Trollheart's journal, I checked and it's true
Initial impression: Strangely enough the album has prompted me to listen to all of Genesis' discography again, largely in an attempt to make me to trawl through the Phil Collins era albums.
End impression: A very accomplished documentation by the band.
Comments: Trollheart stated that this might be the best place to start for any new Genesis fan, I actually disagree with that and think the album is more designed for an existing fan to really appreciate the extra musicians being used in Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford and to hear Phil Collins sing on some of the Peter Gabriel classics. Talking of Phil Collins as a vocalist, he does a great job in keeping the Genesis spirit alive here but the problem is he lacks the truly great expressive style of Peter Gabriel and you therefore know you're getting second best (which is still very good considering the guy is really a drummer) Overall I've tried to be as objective as possible concerning Phil Collins as to sit through his solo stuff is punishing, but maybe on listening to the band discography again, I may warm to him a bit more.

Rating: 4.0

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Anteater

Album title: Seconds Out
Artiste: Genesis
Nationality: British
Year: 1977
Subgenre: ???
Player(s): Phil Collins (Lead vocals, Drums), Mike Rutherford (Guitars, Bass), Steve hackett (Guitars), Tony Banks (Keyboards), Chester Thompson (Most Drums)/Bill Bruford (A Few Drums)
Familiarity: I own every last one of the band's studio output, but this is the first live album I've heard.
Favourite track(s): Dance On A Volcano, Supper's Ready and Firth Of Fifth.
Why? I'm a big fan of all the Trick Of The Tail material obviously, but its also a lot of fun hearing Collins tackle the band's early epic calling card. I personally think he's on par with Gabriel here...
Least favourite track(s): None
Why? Not much of a Genesis fanboy either way: even when the performances aren't perfect, atleast they're interesting. That's what really matters in a live record.
Any preconceptions prior to listening, whether good or bad? None really. Genesis has always been a very professional outfit both during and after the Gabriel era, so Seconds Out is a pretty cool snapshot of where they were in the late 70's.
Artwork: *yawn*
Factoids you'd like to share? Peter Gabriel has a solo career!!!11111
Initial impression: OOOH YEAH HONAYY, TIME FOR SQUONK!
End impression: Los Endos? Give me Ripples damn it!
Comments: Not really the best place to start if your a Genesis fan, but seeing as its one of the only two live recordings of their 70's era, its certainly recommended as a followup to anyone who has gone through the band up to and including Trick Of The Tail. Not sure why people always say Gabriel is a better singer than Collins: they've got such a similar timbre anyway that it doesn't make much of a difference to me. However, I suppose if you are a victim of 80s-Collins-Overload, I can see why his voice would be a detriment to the ears. But hey, I've also met people who don't care much for Gabriel's 80's output too, so you really do find all kinds out there...

Rating: 3.5

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Album title: Seconds Out
Artiste: Genesis
Band Origin: Surrey, England
Recorded: Paris, France
Year: 1977
Genre Progressive Rock
Band Members:
Tony Banks: Keyboards RMI Piano, Mellotron, Arp
Phil Collins: lead vocals, percussion, drums on "Robbery, Assault and Battery" (during keyboard solo), "Firth of Fifth", "The Musical Box", "Supper's Ready" (during "Apocalypse in 9/8" section), "Cinema Show" (during keyboard solo) & "Los Endos" Seconds Out - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Steve Hackett Gibson Les Paul Deluxe, 12 String
Mike Rutherford Bass & 12 String
with:
Bill Bruford drums, Cinema Show
Chester Thompson
n.b.Seconds Out was recorded in 1977, and Daryl Stuermer joined as a touring musician in 1978.

Familiarity of the Album: I haven't heard of this album til now. I don't quite know why I skipped this one. I still have to dig deeper into it.

Familiarity of the Band: One of my all time favorite bands, definitely in the top 10. Between Trick of the Tale and Duke is a shady area in which I'm not too familiar with.

Favourite track(s): Robbery, Assault and Battery
Why?
During the first instrumental solo break, Tony solos on a synth (2:20) and switches over the organ and at (3:00) Steve sustains a barely audible note which precedes to get louder then Tony switches over to the Mellotron, a recipe for goosebumps.

I don't know Phil found his voice yet on this tour, but he did a fair job enough. Phil Collins sings with different character voices, which was something Peter Gabriel did from the beginning. It's along the lines as Harold the Barrel except it's about crime and Phil sings all the parts which could be confusing. I really like the whimsical delivery of the different characters especially crook who got away and the copper with the East End accent.

Least favourite track(s): Supper's Ready
Why?
I love the song just not the version found on Seconds Out. It's lags and lacks the power and emotion of the Gabriel-era band. Peter Gabriel owns the song, no doubt about it. I'm not saying it is a counterfeit but it's just that Peter's personality is stamped on the original recording. It's just that Phil is another personality all together, it just seems that he's trudging along in someone else' footsteps. Also Phil skipped over the all important nonsensical speech Peter would give as the other band member would tune up their guitars. It was a total let down.

Any preconceptions prior to listening, whether good or bad?
I am partial to live albums. I was looking forward to it.

Artwork:
State of the art for it's time. It captures the 200 jumbo jet lights and ginamous fog machine..."special effects that would make a Hollywood mogul proud." The set marks a change from the slide shows and costumes that were the hallmark of Gabriel-era concerts. It gives you the impression "It was a dark and stormy night..."

Factoids you'd like to share?
Steve Hackett was taken out of the mix after he left the band. I wasn't particularly fond that... oh well such is band politics. Seconds Out has a double meaning. One is when the fighters' ring crew must leave the ring. Maybe this alludes the fact the Peter Gabriel, and Steve Hackett (as well as other members) left and the three left were those who were left were the three boxers willing to fight it out so to speak. They also played in an old boxing ring in Dublin.

Initial impression: Since TH mentioned Suppers Ready I jumped straight to that song first. Not what I expected.

End impression: The best version of Supper's Ready done live is done proper by the whole band with Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett.

Comments:The very first live album I heard was Genesis Live, a tape own by my cousin, for me that is the pinnacle of live Genesis. I had to go back to Genesis: Live and give it another listen, imo it's the best recorded live show that was officially released. I also like 3 Sides Live, The Longs, and The Shorts. There are many bootlegs and live radio shows however I haven't the opportunity to hear them to compare them to a concert that was officially released. Some rare live footage that exist and has been released on youtube and they are worth checking out. I doubt if anyone is interested but anyway check out Supper's Ready live in Shepperton 1973.

Rating: 3.5
Compared to Genesis Live 5/10

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