Eminem

The Batlord · 09-04-2018, 10:18 AM

Anyone who doesn't love Relapse should get fired. If you find your boss krumping behind you then tread carefully.

OccultHawk · 09-04-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Anyone who doesn't love Relapse should get fired. If you find your boss krumping behind you then tread carefully.

You like it enough for both of us.

The Batlord · 09-04-2018, 10:41 AM

And you bite pillows enough for both of us while I tower over your quivering *******.

Ninetales · 09-04-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Well yeah but there's still a version that has its place, just a narrow place.

I suppose the argument would be if they are intrinsically related how can you separate the two. You can say "context matters" but if tone, familiarity, judgment, etc. can easily get muddled in conversations that lack this level of ambiguity, then it's easy to unintentionally spread the worst connotations of the word.

The "language changes over time" argument is a strange one as well. Using a hateful words in a hateful manner (especially knowing its connotations) and then just claiming a tamer version is not how a definition would fluidly change. It's not using it as an insult at all that would eventually do this, but w/e it's a hill weirdos are willing to die on for some reason.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-04-2018, 12:10 PM

I assume we are all in agreement that Charles is a homophobe then? As well as racist, sexist and a supporter of the Nazis?

The Batlord · 09-04-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

I suppose the argument would be if they are intrinsically related how can you separate the two. You can say "context matters" but if tone, familiarity, judgment, etc. can easily get muddled in conversations that lack this level of ambiguity, then it's easy to unintentionally spread the worst connotations of the word.

The "language changes over time" argument is a strange one as well. Using a hateful words in a hateful manner (especially knowing its connotations) and then just claiming a tamer version is not how a definition would fluidly change. It's not using it as an insult at all that would eventually do this, but w/e it's a hill weirdos are willing to die on for some reason.

You can separate the two because of shades of meaning. The two forms of the word are linked but do not mean the same thing even while evoking the same meaning. It's language. It's complex and bizarre and nearly impossible to pin down but there are still recognizable differences in how a single word can mean different things in different contexts. You just gotta use a bit of judgement in where and when you use it and perhaps shrug off criticisms that you feel are shallow, missing the point, or strawmanning you but that's always the price you pay for ****posting.

Ninetales · 09-04-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

You can separate the two because of shades of meaning. The two forms of the word are linked but do not mean the same thing even while evoking the same meaning. It's language. It's complex and bizarre and nearly impossible to pin down but there are still recognizable differences in how a single word can mean different things in different contexts. You just gotta use a bit of judgement in where and when you use it and perhaps shrug off criticisms that you feel are shallow, missing the point, or strawmanning you but that's always the price you pay for ****posting.

I don't really think it's as nuanced a word as you make it out to be, as I don't believe there is any weight to the word without the historical context associated - by this I mean the only reason you're evoking any meaning at all is due to its "being gay is bad" connotation.

Also I don't think I've called you a homophobe in this discussion..

Mindfulness · 09-04-2018, 12:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfTbHITdhEI

DwnWthVwls · 09-04-2018, 01:17 PM

He just shit on a whole lotta people..

windsock · 09-04-2018, 01:24 PM

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He just shit on a whole lotta people..

..and a whole lotta people think he's **** in return. This whole thing's just a game of deranged give-and-take.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I assume we are all in agreement that Charles is a homophobe then? As well as racist, sexist and a supporter of the Nazis?