Cuthbert

Because using a word for exaggeration or for shock value doesn't make you homophobic, when he's actually been asked about it he's made his opinion clear. I can't imagine a homophobe would buy a gay couple matching cock rings as a wedding present either.

adidasss

Yeah it does. And gay people get to decide this, not straight people. Just like black people get to decide if they feel the use of the n-word is ever appropriate or excusable (note: it's not, ever, and it's not debatable). Faggot is an offensive word meant to belittle a specific group of people, even when it references people who aren't gay. Insulting someone by calling them a faggot is deeply homophobic, always, even if that person officiates a gay wedding the next day. People who have no prejudice towards gay people wouldn't dream about using the f-word in any context because they understand how deeply offensive and hurtful that word is to gay people.

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Cuthbert

So what if a gay person disagrees with you?

It is debatable, but we're not really discussing whether people can decide how they feel about things.

Yet you've just used it?

You're not arguing the same thing as me. It's a homophobic word, but you can use it without being homophobic.

Frownland

Milo is okay with the word therefore it's okay because it's gay approved.

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It’s a tribute not a rip off

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adidasss

"A", single gay person? Or 5 gay people? Or a thousand? They would still be in the vast minority of gay people (and obviously brainwashed into thinking it's somehow ok). The general consensus is that it's offensive and should not be used.
I haven't used it to describe anybody, and I never would, obviously. I merely acknowledged its existence.

Nope. You can't. Sorry to burst your bubble. There is no way of using it (against someone) in a non-homophobic way because the essential idea of using it against someone is to disparage that person and gay people as a group. Same thing with the n-word or any number of other offensive terms used throughout the world to belittle and discriminate against another group of people.

As OH has so succinctly put it, n-word=f-word. I've spoken about this in my thread about the leeway rap gets to have about this while no one would dream about using the n-word in a similar context, which only indicates how much further we have to go to eradicate casual and other kind of homophobia.

Btw, to be specific, this is the full lyric:

"Tyler create nothin', I see why you called yourself a f****t, bitch
It's not just 'cause you lack attention
It's because you worship D12's balls, you're sack-religious"

Belittling a man by implying they suck another man's balls is not homophobic to you?

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Frownland

Sucking another man's balls is inherently belittling? Tone down the homophobia mate.

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