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Originally Posted by djchameleon
My position makes perfect sense and I'm not being lazy about it, maybe you don't see the bigger scope and Janz probably missed it as well at the beginning.
if guns are outlawed completely and people weren't able to get guns other weapons would become the main weapon of choice and that will not stop any violence at all!
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Of course violence would still happen. But it's much easier to kill someone with a gun. A knife takes more skill. You have to be closer and therefore risk being identified. You run the risk of dropping the knife in the ensuing scuffle. If you're going to surprise them and stab them before they can react you have to think up a way to get that close (unlike a long range gun). Even if you do manage to get that close, you still have to not get it stuck on a rib or other bone, since a knife will have more trouble penetrating through the body than a bullet. You run the risk of getting covered in blood, which is just one more possible trail of evidence. And this is all just off the top of my head. If you honestly can't see how a gun makes killing someone easier, then I can't help you.
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Americans are more violent in general and gangs will still find other methods to kill their rivals if they didn't have guns plain and simple.
how is that being lazy or having a weak argument?
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A lame generalization. I wonder how on earth I could have come to the conclusion that your argument was weak or lazy?
And if Americans are more violent (which is an odd generalization seeing as how I've been in one fight in the last five or six years, and I'm a brutish, scary American) then shouldn't we take their guns away? Bad Americans! You are very bad Americans!
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maybe you are just being lazy and not thinking outside of the box or trying to understand my point. You probably just came in on the tail end of this discussion.
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Maybe you should give other people's opinions some thought before you start figuring out how to deconstruct them so that you get to be right.