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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali
What I see is that you really have to define "musician" in a particular way in order to answer either of those questions. In my case, I no longer perform music, nor do I really play my instruments. Does the fact that I have the ability to do so qualify me as a musician, or the act of doing so regularly? Am I a musician because of my inherent abilities? Or do I have to put them to work in order to achieve the title of musician?
In Poop Chute Rockits' case, they no longer make a living as musicians, nor do they even play music. They burned all their radios and their favorite records too, in the very same bon fire as the instruments. When music plays at a restaurant, they leave. Are they musicians? If not, well they definitely were, but why aren't they any longer?
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Heres the thing though, we dont know what you are unless we saw the process used in created and what went on in your head making the music. I mean you clearly have a musical background and my guess is put a good amount of the theory you knew into making the music you do making it more of a musical (musicianship) experience.
Say you had all that knowledge of theory and musical instruments/composing and you decided not to use any of it on your latest project, I would then consider you a producer. While most producers have music degrees or extensive live sound backgrounds their are certainly some that just know what sounds good and have learned to program and edit very well.
Like I mentioned earlier I think its a fine line in what is a musician and producer when talking about electronic music. I guess my problem with it (when talking about creating it) is the pretentious attitude lots of these Dj's or "musicians" (depending on the outcome of this thread
have about their own music and many of the classics out their in other genres. I mean blues/jazz/classical/some rock players/composers have put more time into learning about their instrument and genre than most electronic bands have been around. It takes years to learn the intricacies of it all, and then I see a few of my friends who started making music on their computer 6 months ago and I cant tell the difference between them and DJ so and so who has been doing it for years.
I guess I take this attitude towards it because I had much higher hopes for the technology that is being misused by many in my opinion today. The possibilities when mixing live instruments and computer programmed music is huge. I find electronic live shows (when not on drugs) to be intensly boring with no reason to watch someone playing pre recording music for the most part, but why is their not more bands doing that with the aid of live instruments. Mixing and making samples of whats being played on stage in real time. Surely it could be done an is probably happening somewhere. It would make for an exciting interactive show.
edit: Also just to be clear I very much respect guys making this music and know I could never do it without much work and practice.