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Old 05-29-2012, 11:09 AM   #201 (permalink)
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No, those are the benefits of exercise. Sports is defined, even in the etymological roots, specifically as competition. Please, read through the thread. We went into this in some great detail.
Huh. Whatever.
I had a look though and seemed to find you changing your tune from this, originally you were claiming that "dextrous activity" counted as physical activity making eSports sports, and now it's "competition".

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Except that no definition of sport defines that as meaning strenuous physical activity, and every definition I can find lists physical activity alongside the concept of dexterity or skill.

There is no definition of sports or athletics that states solely that a sport must require strenuous rather than simply practiced physical activity.
This is true - cricket it a sport although not particularly strenuous, golf likewise. Personally, I'd barely consider golf a sport but then again...
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Physical activity would include dexterity, yes?

Even then, I point again to the fact the olympic committee does classify many sports with low physical but high dexterity requirements as legitimate sports.

Including Chess.
OK, first of all I'd like to say that virtually all human activity requires use of our dexterity, including writing, washing, typing etc. which definitely do not count as a sport.
I think that arguing that the level of effort you put into manipulating controls on an XBox or a computer is enough to classify it as a sport is a very faulty line of reasoning because by extension basically by doing your daily routine you're permanently exercising.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you AREN'T claiming that this is legitimate exercise, because if you are then that's a very, very depressing reflection on you!

The point now is that you're definitely trying to claim that the element of a given activity being COMPETITIVE makes it a sport.

I'd like to emphatically object.

There are many aspects of life which are necessarily competitive, yet never considered sports - for instance, education. You getting the necessary grades in your A levels to go to MMU university is competitive. You are competing against other people your age for a place. One could also say that the three hour exams we sit are endurance events. However, I don't think anyone has ever postulated that education is a sport (Sport part of education maybe).
Also, there are many sports that aren't competitive. For instance, hiking, mountain biking and club cycling doesn't have to be competitive at all but are indisputably sports. I really believe that the act of exertion of some form is necessary for something to be classed as a sport - which chess by the way is not. I don't care what the Olympics think, I disagree.



I'd like to ask you a question if I may - why do you want to get eSports labelled as "sports" so much? Are you trying to justify a lifestyle choice? I'm not sure why you want to get this term on your side so much.
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