Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Nu metal is all modeled after what RATM was doing though. Just because they aren't labeled in the genre?

Nu metal doesn't include RATM because RATM were talented musicians and good lyricism and originality. Nu metal was mostly a crap genre, I was a kid and I used to like that stuff too, but the more I listen, the more I realize how much it sucks. Still like some of it I guess, like Fear Factory and Korn's first album and Coal Chamber was alright.

SOAD wasn't even nu metal, don't know how they got mixed into that list, but no, POD wasn't original enough to like for my tastes.