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Old 06-17-2012, 06:23 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Great album and probably is no.2 on my all time fav Pantera albums list.

Whats your fav?
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:38 AM   #62 (permalink)
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The Great Southern Trendkill wasn't critically acclaimed and that kicked ass! Possibly better than RTS.
RTS was weak for them imo. Could go almost any way with my top 3 Pantera albums, GST is slightly behind them, but not by much.

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1. Far Beyond Driven

2. Vulgar Display of Power

3. Cowboys From Hell

4. Great Southern Trendkill

5. Reinventing The Steel

6. Early Power/Hair Metal stuff, it's objectively alright, but too un-Pantera-like to dig IMO.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:02 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Nu metal is all modeled after what RATM was doing though. Just because they aren't labeled in the genre?

Nu metal doesn't include RATM because RATM were talented musicians and good lyricism and originality. Nu metal was mostly a crap genre, I was a kid and I used to like that stuff too, but the more I listen, the more I realize how much it sucks. Still like some of it I guess, like Fear Factory and Korn's first album and Coal Chamber was alright.

SOAD wasn't even nu metal, don't know how they got mixed into that list, but no, POD wasn't original enough to like for my tastes.
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Old 06-17-2012, 04:44 PM   #64 (permalink)
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The Colourfield - Virgins and Philistines (1985) - focusing on the US version which I own.

After The Specials and Fun Boy Three, Terry Hall took his music world into something of an Acoustic Mid 60's Pop, dashed in with some Jazz and Lounge - Beat Music for The 80's. In short, something that was pretty much out of step with most of time with the Terry Hall's unique edge topping it off. It kind of fitted in with a Mid 80's Alternative that let some Mod and Jazz styles in (When Mod was really a cult happening that was not heard of much), but it was very tough to sell beyond that cult, making this a huge disappointment sales-wise in the minds of the industry. I'm sure fans of both The Specials and Fun Boy Three were possibly split, especially those in The US more used to the classic aggressive Ska of The Specials' first album or Fun Boy Three's style.

Today, however, more know about this album, especially fans of the world of Hall as well as bands like (insert any 60's Pop influenced band from The 90's and 2K's here).

Hall is with Toby Lyons and Karl Shale from 2-Toneers the Swinging Cats, with a little help from Pete de Freitas (from Echo and The Bunnymen).

The album went into the UK Top 20 briefly, with only one major hit in "Thinking of You," but it strictly went straight to cult-land shortly after. In the US, the album was slightly altered, featuring their cover of the 1967 ? and the Mysterians single "Can't Get Enough of You, Baby" as the lead off track that was not on the UK album (yes, it was the song Smash Mouth turned into a hit some time back). The songs left off of the UK edition were on an EP released a little later in The US. Still, with a focus on the more 60's Psych Pop side from UK singles including their fine self titled debut A-Side, it still could not whip up enough interest in the Alternative scene of the day.

The songs used on The US version...







A song on both versions - a "Windmills of Your Mind" sounding classic, a single that was promoting the album, but sadly was not a hit.



I tried to get into their second album, but I'm going to have to hear it again for a modern judgement. Still, I applaud this album.

I was about to nominate More Specials as well, but as it was a hit in The UK and earned a lot of raves everywhere else, it may not have been that much of a flop.

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Ministry - Filth Pig

Apparently this album is crap. I don't know if it's because it was my introduction to the band or what but I never thought it was that bad even after I acquiring other albums. If anything I prefer the sludgy-ness of this disc over the sterility of their more proper industrial fare. Reload and Brick Windows are still great tracks, I always enjoyed The Game Show and Useless as well. The Dylan cover of 'Lay Lady Lay' is a little odd but fits well in the disc. I can definitely understand why the album got the reaction it did from longtime fans as well as the press, I just didn't happen to be in either camp when I got my hands on it back in the day.
I feel pretty much the exact same way about that album, but I personally think their best album is Dark Side of the Spoon and that album is almost universally panned. I got into Ministry with Filth Pig, but they became an all-time favorite with Dark Side of the Spoon.

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No surprises here, the obvious choice a Vulgar Display of Power.
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No surprises here, the obvious choice a Vulgar Display of Power.
Obvious choice, but its still a great album!

So whe enjoys "Ram It Down" by Judas Priest? Someone out there must?
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Obvious choice, but its still a great album!

So whe enjoys "Ram It Down" by Judas Priest? Someone out there must?
i don't like that one bit, i must, however, confess I have a soft spot for "Turbo"

and this one also:-



considered as one of their "weaker" albums, but I think the songwriting is sterling here, has one of their best songs "Here Comes President Kill Again"

and a second best in "Chalkhills & Children"

and i don't mind the 80s production, not one iota
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i don't like that one bit, i must, however, confess I have a soft spot for "Turbo"

and this one also:-



considered as one of their "weaker" albums, but I think the songwriting is sterling here, has one of their best songs "Here Comes President Kill Again"

and a second best in "Chalkhills & Children"

and i don't mind the 80s production, not one iota

This is one I'm going to have to hear in full again, but I do have memories of it. I do remember a couple of reviews, one in a UK publication that was very short lived called Offbeat, that actually judges the album by pairing up sides - possibly hinting that it could have used some editing in that opinion. It's been years, so past my Late 80's Teenage Wilderness I should check it out again, although I always had a like for "The Mayor of Simpleton."

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Obvious choice, but its still a great album!

So whe enjoys "Ram It Down" by Judas Priest? Someone out there must?
That's a very good album, I like it. I've never been a fan of British Steel, actually, which was my first Priest exposure. Ram it Down was my second and I felt like it was far better than BS, from then on I began to backtrack into Priest's other discography. The title track is fantastic and my only complaint with the album is the Johnny B. Good cover, I really didn't fancy that one.
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