And just by the way, I don't hate hardcore or it's subgenres, hell, I even dig a lot of beatdown and deathcore stuff even though those are frowned upon by a lot of people who dig oldschool hardcore and punk. So this isn't me acting like an old fart towards more recent evolutions of punk, this is me just stating an observation I've made that punk isn't a GENRE it WAS a MOVEMENT and it died
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