dj i really dont think we are that far from agreeing on a lot of things its probably the way we come across to each other that makes us seem further apart
and i will disclose that do have this mindset party because of jobs i have held that didnt even deal with race but just needy people in general. ive seen caseworkers, aides, counselors, and staff members such as myself completely bend over backwards for needy people and get nothing in return but animosity. there are literally huge groups of people dedicated to one person or one family and that family still cant get their **** together despite tons of hard work and dedication from people they dont even know. yes i am generalizing and no im not lumping every single person ever in that, but when time and time again you put in the work, you put in the time and genuine effort, and not only do you not succeed but you get BLAMED it's almost impossible to not eventually get a jaded attitude
i will disagree on trayvon and zimm. zimm followed trayvon because 1) recent burglaries and 2) he was casually walking around in the rain. (according to zimm). that IS suspicious, im sorry to those who disagree. it certainly doesnt implicate that he is a criminal, but especially as a neighborhood watch or just as a community member you SHOULD be lookin out for the other in your community. the race angle just isn't believable to me.
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'd like you to go further but I think you need to dig a bit deeper and understand why that happens. They are disenfranchised by a system that is meant to help them get out of the current situation they are in.
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with prison culture in urban areas/rough neighborhoods you see a cycle of black fathers going to prison, single mothers unable to raise young boys, boys becoming men with no positive role models, then repeating the cycle. when/if the fathers do get out to raise their sons they have a prison culture instilled in them which is to act quickly, act violently and aggressively, often times over react, and do first/think second.
i do realize the system doesnt always work but i'm tired of always blaming 'the system.' every time an alarming statistic comes up or i see crime rates, it's always 'the system' to blame. even though there are SO many people in 'the system' tryin their hardest to make things better. so not only do those people bend over backwards to help complete strangers, but when things dont work out THEY get the brunt of the blame. at some point an individual person needs to take it upon THEMSELVES to make a change IN THE FAMILY. nobody has to try to save the world here, but they can start by saving their family from continuing the cycle
and i DO lump poor whites in this discussion but we are talkin about a black problem (crime rates, poverty, etc and i know that has to do with the large concentration of blacks in urban areas). I said before in this thread or maybe another one, that i dont get scared when a group of black guys in khakis and polos walk into the Unimart. I DO get suspicious when a group of black guys in wife beaters, sideways caps, baggy shorts and chains walk into the store, and i feel the SAME way if a group of hispanics or white guys lookin like that are around.