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Old 11-04-2013, 02:51 AM   #1255 (permalink)
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That makes pop punk so broad it loses all meaning, IMO.
Pop punk is already a pretty loose umbrella that includes a lot.








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Maybe The Black Parade does, but that's mostly just pretentious alt-rock as WhatEverDude labeled them. Haven't heard all of their earlier/later works, though, so I may be wrong, in fact, the only full album I've heard is The Black Parade.

I'd label them "alternative rock with post-hardcore influences in their early works, suitable for moping".
This is from their first album


All you need to fit into the Pop Punk criteria is to be an offshoot of alternative rock, with pop melodies, speedy punk tempos, chord changes and loud guitars.

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^Exactly.

Most of the popular "alternative" radio acts circa 2000-06ish were just pop bands dressed up (sort of...) like punks/emokids to create a trend and sell records. It's a cycle that happens with every generation to every genre of music unfortunately. Calling MCR pop-punk is like calling Duran Duran punk. Granted, they do both have some ties to real punk music and I'd hardly believe FOB never heard of Descendents but lumping them in the same group is just not accurate. There's a difference between a marketed image and the culture that birthed it's blueprint.
I agree with some of that. Those bands were a mixture of emo/pop punk but some of their songs could still be considered pop punk imo.

Fall Out Boy, Panic! at the Disco, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus and Paramore fit more closely with MCR.
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