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View Poll Results: Favorite MCR Album?
I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love 37 21.51%
Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge 62 36.05%
The Black Parade 73 42.44%
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #1251 (permalink)
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It's in the punk section because they are pop punk.

Are they not?
That is insulting to pop punk. Dillinger Four, Menzingers, Mr.T Experience, Queers... Pop Punk fo sho. MCR? Not even in the early days. Hilariously over dramatic alt-rock is the closest thing to pop-punk I can stomach calling them.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:07 AM   #1252 (permalink)
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That is insulting to pop punk. Dillinger Four, Menzingers, Mr.T Experience, Queers... Pop Punk fo sho. MCR? Not even in the early days. Hilariously over dramatic alt-rock is the closest thing to pop-punk I can stomach calling them.
Regardless of what you think about them and how beneath them you are. They are most definitely pop punk. They fit in with The Offspring, Sum 41, Simple Plan and the like.
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That makes pop punk so broad it loses all meaning, IMO.

This





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Personally, I don't think My Chemical Romance sound that much like either.



Maybe The Black Parade does, but that's mostly just pretentious alt-rock as WhatEverDude labeled them. Haven't heard all of their earlier/later works, though, so I may be wrong, in fact, the only full album I've heard is The Black Parade.

I'd label them "alternative rock with post-hardcore influences in their early works, suitable for moping".
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^Exactly.

Most of the popular "alternative" radio acts circa 2000-06ish were just pop bands dressed up (sort of...) like punks/emokids to create a trend and sell records. It's a cycle that happens with every generation to every genre of music unfortunately. Calling MCR pop-punk is like calling Duran Duran punk. Granted, they do both have some ties to real punk music and I'd hardly believe FOB never heard of Descendents but lumping them in the same group is just not accurate. There's a difference between a marketed image and the culture that birthed it's blueprint.
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That makes pop punk so broad it loses all meaning, IMO.
Pop punk is already a pretty loose umbrella that includes a lot.








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Maybe The Black Parade does, but that's mostly just pretentious alt-rock as WhatEverDude labeled them. Haven't heard all of their earlier/later works, though, so I may be wrong, in fact, the only full album I've heard is The Black Parade.

I'd label them "alternative rock with post-hardcore influences in their early works, suitable for moping".
This is from their first album


All you need to fit into the Pop Punk criteria is to be an offshoot of alternative rock, with pop melodies, speedy punk tempos, chord changes and loud guitars.

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Most of the popular "alternative" radio acts circa 2000-06ish were just pop bands dressed up (sort of...) like punks/emokids to create a trend and sell records. It's a cycle that happens with every generation to every genre of music unfortunately. Calling MCR pop-punk is like calling Duran Duran punk. Granted, they do both have some ties to real punk music and I'd hardly believe FOB never heard of Descendents but lumping them in the same group is just not accurate. There's a difference between a marketed image and the culture that birthed it's blueprint.
I agree with some of that. Those bands were a mixture of emo/pop punk but some of their songs could still be considered pop punk imo.

Fall Out Boy, Panic! at the Disco, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus and Paramore fit more closely with MCR.
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I'd consider Green Day legit pop punk, at least Dookie and earlier (though Dookie shouldn't be considered punk in a non-music manner). No, I'm Not Okay, is from MCR's second album, and I don't think they sound that much like Fall Out Boy and Panic!, at least not on their debut.
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Well to be fair, Gerard Way said earlier on in the band that he'd consider the band aggressive pop. They're not trying to claim they're in a punk-pop band. People just call them pop-punk because they share a lot of elements with it. It's really hard to put a label on them. Every album sounded so much different from the one before that it's just difficult.

All of this said, I think the least punk thing to do is to limit what punk really is. I know they have a lot of punk influences for sure, hence why you hear some of those elements in the songs.
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Isn't that just a blatant rip off of Spawn?
Actually in one of their interviews with AP it was confirmed that Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge is loosely base on Brian De Palma's, Phantom of the Paradise.
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A lot of artists deny labels. Motörhead said they weren't metal, and about every one of the original emo bands claimed not to be emo. My Chemical Romance aren't pop punk not because they reject the term, but because they don't sound like Descendents.
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Is your new avatar related to Nekrogoblikon?
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