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I am not bashing her. I am giving constructive criticism and I have legitimate reasons for my opinion. You need to stop saying someone is bashing or someone is a hater just because they give constructive criticism.
I could see if there was no rational to my argument but there is so I am not sure why you keep insisting that I am bashing her when I am not.
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Constructive criticism? Really? Just calling her music boring is constructive criticism in your books? I'm not saying you have to like her music but that is in no way constructive criticism.
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Also, it does not matter what I think, I am talking about what the media says and projects and she does not nearly get as much criticism as the others.
If Miley, Rihanna or Lady Gaga had made lyrics like that they would have gotten dragged through the mud by the media.
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You are doing the same thing that you do in arguments about artists not getting enough credit. You bring up the media and it's always based off of your perspective of what the media says. There is no way in hell that you can actually prove anything. You can snatch up a few articles here and there if you want to but there is no way to prove what the overall media says because it's all different sources. You choose to not see all the hate and being dragged through the mud that she gets and make your opinion based off of that when it's not really the case.
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No she does not. Even when she finally got some criticism for her lip singing last year, everyone was still supporting her and making excuses for her. I remember J Lo even insisted that Whitney lip singed so why couldn't Beyonce.
If Michael Jackson did not get a passed
If Madonna did not get a passed
If Janet Jackson did not get passed
If Whitney Houston did not get a passed
If Britney Spears did not get a passed
Why should Beyonce get a passed for lip singing?
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I would ask you who this everyone was but you'd probably just fall back on your tried and true statement of the "media". I can understand her fans sticking up for her but you go above and beyond to place the blame on the media when there are people in the media that are on both sides of the coin. Regardless she didn't get this "pass" that you are referring to.
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Beyonce had some pretty raunchy lyrics and music videos on her latest album and the media and critics raved about it and did not mention anything about her questionable lyrics and her more raunchier image.
Miley Cyrus does the same thing but they drag her all the time but they don't say anything about Beyonce or when she does it.
They say she is a good role model for young girls or make excuses by saying she represents "feminism"
I have a problem with that because showing your ass is not "feminism" and I don't see how singing about how it is okay to let a man hit you is being a good role model for young girls.
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You also have a problem with telling girls to be comfortable with their bodies.
Do you also have a problem with her singing about female empowerment?
You keep denying that you are slut shaming but that's exactly what you are doing. Women aren't supposed to be proud of their bodies in your eyes. They should be covered from head to toe with dresses that drag across the floor.
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You make it seem like Beyonce gets criticized all the time and that is not true.
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She does actually by people just like you! Anything she does she gets ripped apart for. So much so that it seems like you have a personal beef with her.
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Just like I figured, you just mention her singles and did not even list albums that you have listened to.
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You asked me for songs and I gave you songs. Now that's not enough and you want me to list off albums. I'm not going to listen to the entire discography of someone that I don't like. I don't go around saying that you have to listen to every Lady Gaga, Beyonce and Rihanna album before you make your outlandish claims that they make boring uninteresting music.
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If you do not care for her that is okay but don't say you have listened to her music when you have not.
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I can listen to only one song of a band/artist and say I have heard their music and make a judgement off of that.
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That song sounds nothing like what Beyonce has done but if you think so... okay.
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Did you even listen to B'day? yeah....thought so. Yet you want to criticize me for not listening to all of Kelis' albums.
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Sound Scan recently came out with her sale figures and she has sold a combined total of 15 million copies which is not really a lot for a artist of her stature. There are artists that are less known that have sold more than that. Her albums do not sell a lot and I highly doubt she would have still sold well with all those artists dropping their albums at the same time which is why her team waited to release her album at the last minute.
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You can doubt that all you want but that's your personal opinion.
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You can release a single and still not have promotion.
He did not do the Superbowl like Beyonce did.
He did not sing at the Inauguration like Beyonce did.
He did not have world tour like Beyonce did.
He did not have Pepsi commercial and endorsements like Beyonce did
He did not leak any of his songs to test the strength of them like Beyonce did
She had PLENTY of promotion before she dropped her album like that. David Bowie did not before he dropped his singles online out of the blue.
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All she did was kept herself relevant in the public eye. She didn't perform any of her new songs at any of those events that you listed. I think you need to look up the definition of promotion. She was NOT promoting her new album.
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You said I found that out through my "small circle". How do you think I am suppose to take that? That is why I asked how do you know who I went to or talked to me about the album? People talked about it for a week and that was it. No one talks about that album.
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I said your small circle because all of these claims are only based off of your perspective and it's purely subjective and anecdotal.
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She added that speech in the beginning of that song AFTER she received backlash over the summer for it. She wanted to turn it around and make it about Feminism.
That is annoying how she uses a complex powerful meaningful theory as Feminism to get away with the things.
Everything is not feminism.
That song is ratchet, conceited and has nothing to feminism.
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I thought she was such a media darling? If she was then she wouldn't have even had this backlash that you are referring to. You are also mixing up the female empowerment with feminism they aren't interchangeable.