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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
Influenced doesn't mean they are.
The ramones influenced tons of early hardcore bands would you call them hardcore?
I think not.
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No, but they did influence many punk bands, and they are indeed punk.
Anyway you are talking about sub-genres of sub-genres, which is different. Im not talking about death metal or thrash metal or power metal or doom metal, just plain metal in general. When you start one whole genre, and influence basicly every sub-genre within that genre, you would be considered a part of that genre.