They dont sound anything like metal and the influenced the riffs its it. Just cause a band influences something doesn't mean its immdeitly in that genre. I sure as hell wouldn't call all the bubblegum bands punk just because they heavily influenced the ramones.
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Originally Posted by Music Is Pwnage
Bad Brains and Black Flag are punk to me, but they're hardcore. That could make Ramones hardcore, seeing that they are as lame as BB, but still both kick-assical bands.
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That'd make you an idiot.