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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
They dont sound anything like metal and the influenced the riffs its it. Just cause a band influences something doesn't mean its immdeitly in that genre. I sure as hell wouldn't call all the bubblegum bands punk just because they heavily influenced the ramones.
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But theres a difference, The Ramones didnt invent a whole genre, they revolutionized a whole genre, which is different...My point is, there was punk rock before The Ramones, there was no metal before Black Sabbath...They didnt just influence metal, they freaking started it, theres a difference.