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It had a short run because there wasn't really much to it. It was a label that got slapped on a bunch of not-that-similar bands just because of timing and location, but it wasn't a coherent thing that was going anywhere. The bigger picture of rock in the 90s was the rise of alternative rock, which included grunge, and which has continued on to this day metamorphosing from decent music into horribly bland garbage. As Urban mentioned above, the whole grunge/alternative thing was really the last gasp of popular rock music before the long deflation that followed.
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I wonder what made them name it "grunge" it makes it sound demonic and I think that is awful because I think in a lot of ways the genre has a lot of soul and meditating undertones to it.
I also hear people say that the genre influnced the bubble gum bands like Panic at the Disco, My Chemical Romance, The Killers, All American Rejects, etc do you disagree with that?
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I'm pretty neutral about grunge's impact. I appreciate it for the large role it played in eliminating the crappy guitar soloing that had dominated most popular rock since the 70s, but overall it was just a regurgitation of the underground rock of the 80s and wasn't adding much to the equation aside from popularizing things that had been previously more niche.
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I actually love a lot of the 70's rock bands.I don't really listen to rock that much but when I do I always find myself listening to the 60's or the 70's. I think the 80's is when Rock was starting to lose its soulness/authenticity. You are probably right about grunge though. It probably was already a very established underground sound.
That is what happen with Neo Soul in the mid 90's. It was a underground genre and D Angelo/Erykah Badu/etc helped popularize it. Unfortunately, since then it has not been commercial. It also had a very short peak as well.
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I totally disagree that hair metal gets more respect than disco. Hair metal is, justifiably, much more of a subject of mockery than disco. Despite the initial backlash shortly after the disco era, disco has gone on to be regarded as great, classic party music that, in it's own subtle way, actually stood for things like racial, gender and sexual orientation equality. Hair metal is remembered for its cheesiness and ridiculousness. The very fact that we're both sitting here calling it "hair metal" is a good example of how it's perceived. Nobody called it "hair metal" back when it was popular, that's a derisive name for it that was coined after it had gone out of style, by people mocking it for its shallowness. The fact that it's the common name for it now just goes to show how people feel about it.
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I respectfully disagree with this post.
Disco is the most under appreciated genre to ever exist.
Apart of the reason why it is under appreciated is because the industry is quick to cite it as a "fad" or a certain craze during a specific period. I think they are quick to label it as these things because they don't view it as a serious musical genre which I think is sad because some of the greatest music, singers, and composers were Disco singers/artists.
I LOVE The Bee Gee's and find them to be very under appreciated. They were not only great singers but fantastic songwriters. How Deep Is Your Love and Staying Alive are some of the greatest songs ever written. I could not imagine someone else singing How Deep Is You Love with the same vulnerability and souless as Brian.
Same with my girl Donna Summer who did not get inducted into the Rock Hall of Fame until her death two years ago. She was snubbed at least 5/6 times for Hair Metal bands instead. She is definitely one of the greatest female pop singers for sure. She really made Disco into an art form and is criminally underrated.
A Taste of Honey, Chic and countless others are underrated Disco bands.
They actually snubbed Chic a year ago for the RHOF induction in place of Nirvana (Not that they don't deserve to get inducted because I think there impact speaks for itself but Chic is a 70's Disco band with an eclectic sound that was out before them).
The industry always gives accolades to Hair metal bands like Guns N Roses and Kiss over Disco acts and that is problematic especially in KISS case who were just a gimmick rock band. It is pretty ridiculous the amount of accolades they get. Hair metal gets way to much credit in my opinion.