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Old 12-07-2005, 12:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RealXenWarrior
cmon kash... come on all you guys.... lay off the new rock. sure classic rock is what it is... classic rock... but you're basically saying that classic rock is the only real good music and trying to discredit new music. f' that. I'd take new stuff anyday before i sit back and play old regurgetated **** for hours on end. new music is fresh and creative and progressive, it keeps the rock scene alive and filled with new ideas so that the art may live on. i like new music... and yes... radio stations WILL be playing new music in 40 years... we are in a time of crisis kash... the world is in a state of unrest history tells us that war+social unrest+conflict=good music.
I agree with that formula for the most part but . . . where's the good music at? I am not all about classic rock, I am a fan of grunge music, and I also like some newer bands such as the chili peppers, foo fighters, and audioslave. I am also a MAJOR tool fan, reasons being that 1) I can actually understand what they are saying, and 2)they actually sing about real topics with deep meanings, and 3) they are very talented and play their instruments very well. I can't stand how music nowadays is all about the lyrics, which really suck. It used to be that artists like bob dylan, the rolling stones, the doors, pink floyd, etc. would sing about real life subjects and the music impacted its listeners, most modern rock especially metal does not impact me because i can not understand what they are saying, or should i say screaming. Bob dylan once wrote the times they are a changin, unfortunately, musically speaking they are changin for the worse. There is hope I think, because I think rock music has hit an all time low and cannot get much worse, so it can only get better from here I hope, and more and more younger people are getting into the older rock and realizing that it is much better. There are two glaring problems that seperate modern music from past times music: hardly anyone plays their own instruments any more, and the lyrics are squallid. Guitar riffs are often stolen directly from other songs (Kid Rock, stealing Metallica's riff from Sad But True. That pissed me off. Kid Rock sucks. Need I even mention eminem destroying dream on, I'll be glad when he gets shot or ods on crack) Also, the instruments are not the focus as they should be; the focus is on the crappy lyrics that spew forth from the mouths of modern day musicians. That point is even arguable, because I would also contend that the main focus is not on the music at all, but rather on the image associated with the singers. Back in the day, when great bands such as the ones mentioned in this poll and others ruled supreme, musicians actually played their instruments, and played them damn well. Songs usually had introductions that lasted more than twelve seconds, as well as musical interludes throughout the course of the song. Damnit, there were solos as well! Music had a mood back then, with each band having a distinct sound. Now, too many bands sound the same. Here are my major issues with modern day rock/metal
1.) There is too much screaming. I don't enjoy it when I cannot understand the words.
2.) Way too much swearing. Now, I don't have anything against swearing in general, as most people know I swear a lot. However, sometimes I just don't want to hear it in my music. How is it so many great groups from the past could refrain from swearing much at all, but now its just like f* this f*that instead of singing about why you feel that way.
3.) Songs are no longer about anything. Old bands actually had songs that commented on things such as the government, or the horrors of war, and other common societal themes.
4.) Bands do not have distinct sounds any more. Most sound similar, and just scream at a microphone.

Compare lyrics:

There's somethin' happening here,
What it is ain't exactly clear.
There's a man with a gun over there,
Tellin' me I gotta beware.
I think it's time we stop,
Hey, what's that sound,
Everybody look what's going down.


- For What It's Worth, Stephen Stills, 1966

"Duality" by Slipknot

I push my fingers into my eyes...
It's the only thing that slowly stops the ache...
But it's made of all the things I have to take...
Jesus, it never ends, it works it's way inside...
If the pain goes on...
Aaaaaaaah!

I rest my case

Ok, I am ready for your hostile replies now.
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