that post is kind of confusing to me. particularly this part: "I don't see why it would be necessary for consciousness. There are some people that claim that it's necessary, but we can easily imagine a lifeform that just does cognitive computations without experiencing them. Maybe those computations just gave rise to consciousness as a byproduct."
it sounds like you're saying suffering isn't necessary for consciousness but then you go on to describe "a lifeform that just does cognitive computations without experiencing them." this doesn't sound like consciousness to me.
i guess i always thought about consciousness as being 'experienced' sort of by its very nature. so it just seems logical to me that if a conscious lifeform has 'avoidance responses' it would experience them in a negative way(e.g. pain). i'm not playing devil's advocate here, i do appreciate your responses but i don't quite understand what you're saying tbh.
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