Hiphop is a culture (the 4 elements). Rap is the genre, which is often referred to as hiphop; a short for hiphop music which means music associated with the hiphop culture. Similar to how you hear hiphopper/hiphop head being short for a person associated with hiphop culture.
When people hear rap and say "that's not hiphop", they are saying its not what hiphop culture represents. "That music is not part of us".
This is how I've always understood it.
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