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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-26-2015, 03:26 PM

no but certainly those genres to appeal to specific demographics more than others. i guess i wasn't trying to focus on intent insomuch as to the results obtained.

and with the artists i mentioned i think background comes into play... these are artists that aren't from a background that was historically dominant in hip hop. and musically and culturally they have different influences than you might expect from a typical hip hop artist. so as a result the music appeals to a different sort of demographic. i mean i think i remember atmosphere or one of those artists saying that fugazi were one of their biggest influences.. and i know many of these artists have performed at venues like the warped tour etc which is typically more of a punk venue.

as for experimenting.. i'm all for it. but the thing about experiments is that the results can vary. for example free jazz.. i honestly can't see how people can really listen to some of that ****. honestly it sounds like an assault on my ear drums more than actual music. i'm a huge coltrane fan and i feel like his best work was when he started experimenting with different, less restricted forms of jazz and started going in the direction of free jazz.

my favorite work of his is when his music still had some sort of discernible structure yet he was playing around with it. like ole is probably my favorite song of his. my second favorite is dearly beloved which is the closest thing to free jazz i can really listen to... and a love supreme is easily his best album to me... but then in later years his actual free jazz **** is just unlistenable to me. like 16 straight minutes of squealing saxophone with little discernible melody or structure. it's not just boring to me but actually unpleasant to listen to. i feel the same way about what i've heard from ornette coleman and the like.

i honestly admire coltrane more than any musician i've come across for the fact that he seemed to be on a journey to unlock music's true potential.. and that he was so dedicated to that pursuit that he didn't hesitate to drive away the bulk of his fan base. but even still the results of his later efforts are mostly unlistenable white noise to me.

03-26-2015, 03:26 PM	#273 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	no but certainly those genres to appeal to specific demographics more than others. i guess i wasn't trying to focus on intent insomuch as to the results obtained. and with the artists i mentioned i think background comes into play... these are artists that aren't from a background that was historically dominant in hip hop. and musically and culturally they have different influences than you might expect from a typical hip hop artist. so as a result the music appeals to a different sort of demographic. i mean i think i remember atmosphere or one of those artists saying that fugazi were one of their biggest influences.. and i know many of these artists have performed at venues like the warped tour etc which is typically more of a punk venue. as for experimenting.. i'm all for it. but the thing about experiments is that the results can vary. for example free jazz.. i honestly can't see how people can really listen to some of that **. honestly it sounds like an assault on my ear drums more than actual music. i'm a huge coltrane fan and i feel like his best work was when he started experimenting with different, less restricted forms of jazz and started going in the direction of free jazz. my favorite work of his is when his music still had some sort of discernible structure yet he was playing around with it. like ole is probably my favorite song of his. my second favorite is dearly beloved which is the closest thing to free jazz i can really listen to... and a love supreme is easily his best album to me... but then in later years his actual free jazz ** is just unlistenable to me. like 16 straight minutes of squealing saxophone with little discernible melody or structure. it's not just boring to me but actually unpleasant to listen to. i feel the same way about what i've heard from ornette coleman and the like. i honestly admire coltrane more than any musician i've come across for the fact that he seemed to be on a journey to unlock music's true potential.. and that he was so dedicated to that pursuit that he didn't hesitate to drive away the bulk of his fan base. but even still the results of his later efforts are mostly unlistenable white noise to me. Last edited by John Wilkes Booth; 03-26-2015 at 03:37 PM.