Music Banter - View Single Post - pc issue of the day pt. 4:33 isn't music
View Single Post
Old 07-06-2015, 02:40 PM   #68 (permalink)
Frownland
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,548
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
Pollock's art was at least still visual. It was everything that a painting was (so far as I know), sans the "normal" act of painting. 4'33, however, has no value other than as performance art.

What exactly makes 4'33 music rather than just art?
Go trot through my 1300 arguments explaining why in this thread: http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...-what-not.html. The very basic answer is that the piece still relies on sound. It's a common misconception to refer to it as a "silent piece" since while the instruments are silent, the piece is not silent at all. Due to its sonic elements and the fact that it's intended to be music, then it is music. It has a value as performance art though, but the overarching field is music.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
I don't really care: just stop telling me I can't detect humour or sarcasm when, when applied to you, this can be literally impossible at times.
Impossible for you. I don't get some of your jokes sometimes, I don't give you an earful about it. We have different senses of humour. It happens. Get over it.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote