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Originally Posted by Josef K
I'm not going to do a whole line-by-line like I've been doing, or, for that matter, take part in this argument after this - which seems to be your intention as well, so I think we're all good. It seems pretty clear that we're going to keep going around in circles about whose sources are more valid and whose studies are more methodologically sound. I also think we're not really having a productive debate if we're getting bogged down talking about source bias and whatever - these issues are largely background noise and there's no real argument going on related to the stuff I mention at the bottom of my last post (starting with "in sum"), nor does there need to be. You have better things to do and I have better things to do, so I'm really fine with ending this here.
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Yes as long as you understand that I cited liberal sources on immigration.
Paul Krugman here:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...igration/?_r=1
One of Paul Krugman's prodigy here:
Effects of Immigration on African-American Employment and Incarceration
and of course outside of Donald Trump there is another closed border presidential candidate on immigration,
Bernie Sanders!
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) found himself at odds with some immigration reform advocates Thursday, defending his 2007 vote against a comprehensive immigration bill and telling an audience hosted by the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce that "open borders" were a threat to American jobs.
"There is a reason that Wall Street likes immigration reform," Sanders said. "What I think they’re interested in is seeing a process by which we can bring low-wage labor into this county."
The Vermont senator vehemently disagreed. "That's a Koch brothers proposal," he said. "What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that."
Many progressives do believe in that. They've argued for it, in the face of opposition from many labor unions.
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That last line is the kicker for me, and why I don't like middle class liberals.
Bernie Sanders criticizes ‘open borders’ at Hispanic Chamber of Commerce - The Washington Post