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Old 01-07-2016, 05:15 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman View Post
This was all that was said in the first post. The worry that prog's future is looking grim is at least rational. What he said about electronic wasn't.

TR, music is a collaboration of sounds used to create a rhythmatic experience that's pleasing to the ears. But that depends on the ears. What's good is debatable. What is and is not music isa bad way to look at things. Even a guy banging on pots to an uneven tempo and singing off key to a different tempo is still music, but it'll likely suck.
You leave Frown .... oh. Batty beat me to it!
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Hey, you leave Frownland alone.
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No it's not rational. One has to be pretty clueless about prog, if one thinks there hasn't been awesome stuff constantly released after the seventies.
Even if someone is as incredibly narrow minded as the thread starter, there is still enough RetroProg channelling the good old days to have fun with.
It's incredibly insulting to the bigger prog acts (acts Batty would probably happily drown) to say nothing decent has emerged since the seventies. Hugely narrow-minded and, if he's basing his opinion only on the submissions he receives, then he has no right to comment on the state of prog. What about the bands who don't go near his little label? Are they crap just because he doesn't manage/represent them??
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But you agree that music is subjective? If so, you also agree he can believe that there is a lot of awesome modern prog. He is a prog fan, and he likes modern prog as well. The fact that you disagree doesn't necessarily make it true. I like brostep. Most people don't. That doesn't necessarily mean the genre itself is good.
You can say prog is good/bad but you can't make an umbrella decision on how it's faring, just because you don't happen to like what you hear.
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I have listened to tons of new stuff actually. We have a label, so we get bombarded with demos and links to soundcloud, bandcamp, itunes etc. I would say for every 100 things I listen to, maybe one sounds like it was a recording of a group of musicians playing music. The rest sounds like digital sound collaging. So that stuff is better to be released by someone who is into that kind of thing. It's just too lifeless and sterile sounding for our tastes.

Are we not allowed an opinion here?
Yeah, to you. From one terribly limited and specific source. Do you not listen to any of the more popular prog? Have you even heard of Progfest?
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We are well aware of ProTools and all the modern digital gadgets that can make most anyone sound tight and clean. When things sound altered, it comes across as pretending. I think one of the reasons the 90's grunge scene or the 70's punk scene took off was because it simply felt real again. I think that's been missing in Prog for a very long time, and why I believe the genre will continue to decline until it wakes up and realizes it needs to sound more naturally connecting.
Please shut up about Pro Tools. How do you know bands like Spock's Beard, Arena, Marillion, Porcupine Tree et al are using them? You don't. You're assuming. And even if they are, they're not using them to MAKE their music. They can all play, which is something you are deliberately avoiding, as you have never once responded to my pointing this out.
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This post was not intended to be spam. I think that is quite an unfair assessment.

Someone was questioning the credibility of our label and why only three youtube posts. We are a prog / art rock label since 1998. Been around quite a while now. We are a part, a small part of the future of prog, so I don't think it's off topic either.
God I hope not, with your terrible attitude and arrogant opinions. I don't like it, therefore the whole genre is in decline?
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Well, sure it's an opinion, what else? A cucumber?
Maybe the Bolivian Navy on manoeuvres in the South Pacific?
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