Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

This was all that was said in the first post. The worry that prog's future is looking grim is at least rational. What he said about electronic wasn't.

TR, music is a collaboration of sounds used to create a rhythmatic experience that's pleasing to the ears. But that depends on the ears. What's good is debatable. What is and is not music isa bad way to look at things. Even a guy banging on pots to an uneven tempo and singing off key to a different tempo is still music, but it'll likely suck.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

This was all that was said in the first post. The worry that prog's future is looking grim is at least rational. What he said about electronic wasn't.

TR, music is a collaboration of sounds used to create a rhythmatic experience that's pleasing to the ears. But that depends on the ears. What's good is debatable. What is and is not music isa bad way to look at things. Even a guy banging on pots to an uneven tempo and singing off key to a different tempo is still music, but it'll likely suck.

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I listen to "Endless" by Art Rock Circus, I didn't mind it, some of it is reminiscent of KC. So does the artist Teddy Fisher often collaborate with Tributary Records? You should have him design Prog-themed shirts - concert style, with medium sleeve length. I heard that's how G&R made their money, off of concert shirts. To quote Space Balls by Mel Brooks "Merchandising, merchandising, merchandising."

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

But you agree that music is subjective? If so, you also agree he can believe that there is a lot of awesome modern prog. He is a prog fan, and he likes mofdern prog as well. The fact that you disagree doesn't necessarily make it true. I like brostep. Most people don't. That doesn't necessarily mean the genre itself is good.

Originally Posted by grindy

No it's not rational. One has to be pretty clueless about prog, if one thinks there hasn't been awesome stuff constantly released after the seventies.
Even if someone is as incredibly narrow minded as the thread starter, there is still enough RetroProg channelling the good old days to have fun with.

Originally Posted by grindy

You seem confused.
He does not like modern prog.

Originally Posted by Tributary Records

This is our label site:

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We are a boutique label, but we are the original [LABEL NAME REMOVRD] Label. Someone came along later and used our name, not worth fighting over. We formed in 1998.

Our site is a Flash site, it's designed for laptop or desktop computers, not iPhones or small screen devices. Hopefully it won't come up on those. We have combined and worked with artists and photographers, actors, performing arts etc.

Recent quality upgrades by youtube has raised our interest in posting some things there, so we just put up a channel a couple of weeks ago.

Here is a recent collaboration with master painter Teddy Fisher - Art Rock Circus





In 1996 we staged a large scale Rock Opera in Las Vegas at The Flamingo Theater. It did two runs there and then a 6 week run in Los Angeles in 2004. We never released a video of the production because to be honest, it was too dark in the theater. Had we booked an extra week to try and light all the scenes properly, then I think it could have been considered. But we have been going through the three camera footage recently to commemorate the 20 year anniversary of the event. We did get some great stills, but the event was really meant to be experienced live. The audio recording capture the second night was excellent. We did release that and it sold quite well for us back before all the file sharing stuff "Napster", "Kazar" etc took over and changed things. It really hurt the artists and labels.





All of our artists and projects are live bands or performers. Since the decline of record sales, we have been able to continue onward from other sources of funding like art grants and endowments. Actually it's a much better way of going about things, because when we are given funding, it's more philanthropic so we can keep control over the creative menu.

I don't think we ever could have done this by sending links or digital files of our work to Art Foundations. It just doesn't make the same impact. Not anywhere close. People come to our performances or participate and want to get involved.

The inherent nature of anything internet is simply disposable. It is convenient for basis stuff… such as this.

Originally Posted by Tributary Records

I have listened to tons of new stuff actually. We have a label, so we get bombarded with demos and links to soundcloud, bandcamp, itunes etc. I would say for every 100 things I listen to, maybe one sounds like it was a recording of a group of musicians playing music. The rest sounds like digital sound collaging. So that stuff is better to be released by someone who is into that kind of thing. It's just too lifeless and sterile sounding for our tastes.

Are we not allowed an opinion here?

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Oops/. I've misread that. Alright, let me change that. If you believe music is subjective, doesn't he have the right to believe modern prog isn't as good? Personally, I'm a little in the middle. Although I like Modern Prog, I think the majority of great prog comes from the early stages. Dream Theater is still one of my favorites. I though their 2000's works were great. I'm looking forward to the new one. But my other favorite prog bands are classic bands like Kansas and Pink Floyd. What genres do you not like? I could disagree.