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Originally Posted by Ki
I can pull an article out of my ass that expressing racism towards white people as well. And asians. And everything else. You're trying to turn an opinion into fact and it's not working.
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Please do pull an article out of your ass expressing racism twoards white people. Wash it off so that I can read through all the bulls
hit that will be on it.
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Originally Posted by WhateverDude
So said the white person who will never really experience racism.
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Exactly. I don't understand why white people that don't experience racism constantly want to dictate what is and isn't racism to someone of color.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
No, YOU'RE not reading my posts. I've already said that I'm not arguing about how often people get fired due to racism. I'm arguing that just claiming that something is racist does not automatically make something racist. Perhaps you misinterpreted my responses, since it's such a ridiculous, logically bankrupt, objectively wrong belief to hold, and your brain refuses to accept that this discussion is being held. Understandable.
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I made a mistake in my original rant to separate the difference between racism and being prejudiced against. Racism is systematic and institutionalized while prejudice is experienced more often and people label it racism.
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Originally Posted by WhateverDude
We had this discussion here a while ago. DJ v. Butthead if I remember right. I can't find the article. Idk, maybe white people should just stop having kids for a while.
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I vaguely remember this but that article is coming up for me.
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Originally Posted by ChelseaDagger
I do think that people are too quick to throw out labels and accusations of "racism"... All that serves to do is marginalize acts of racism that do deserve our attention.
Was this individual fired based on race? Possibly, possibly not. The fact is, people get discriminated against all the time-- whether it's the hot chick being treated poorly by her fat, homely manager... Or an immigrant school kid being made fun of because he can't speak proper English.. Or the dude who gets turned down for a date because he drives a beat-up Pinto.
NOONE is immune to racism or any other form of discrimination. Being discriminated against for shallow reasons, is just an unavoidable part of life. Life is unfair. That's just the ****ing way it is. There will always be anecdotal cases of racism/sexism/ageism/etc., but the best that we (as a society) can hope for, is that racism doesn't become widely institutionalized and/or culturally condoned. However, eliminating petty, non-criminal prejudiced individuals from a society... Well, good luck with that.
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I know all of this and I know life is unfair. You don't know how many times in a day that I will tell other people that say "____ isn't fair" or that "life isn't fair" to me. I quickly tell them that they need to remove the word fair from their vocabulary because yes life isn't fair. Deal with it. The anecdotal cases of being discriminated /prejudiced against is mainly what I'm talking about. People that experiences this cases shouldn't be made to feel differently because a white person decides to claim they were wrong for feeling that way. Who are YOU to decide how someone should feel about an experience?
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Originally Posted by Ki
My whole point is that we shouldn't be able to claim racism when it's obviously not racism. People talk about being more open and understanding of other people claiming racism, but all that does is allow people to claim racism when it's not applicable. I never understood the argument that you can claim it any time you want. That's the same argument people use when they say they were raped. You can't just claim someone raped you if there's no sign of it, or if it's concenting.
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See, this. If someone claims they are raped. Why do you need to get into that situation and say they weren't raped when you didn't experience the situation as it happened. This attitude leads to rape cases not being reported by women and men alike. I agree it would be nice to have some physical evidence through a rape kit but if the person wasn't strong enough or educated enough to know to go get one done right after the incident happened their experience should be belittled because there isn't any sign of it.