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Old 08-26-2017, 08:32 AM   #6458 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista View Post
Glossed over this the first time but it needs to be addressed. This a great example of how jaded and naive you are when it comes to politics and how the system works in the real world.

Clinton has been part of the political machine in one way or another for 28 years (don't bother with your typically jaded "and that's the problem" cliched comeback).

8 years as first lady to a Governor.
8 years as first lady to a President and the first to have an office in the west wing. She was totally hands on the whole time.
What do you think Bill and Hillary's pillow talk was all about those 16 years?

Then 8 years as a US senator working alongside many of the members who are still serving - on both sides of the aisle.

Then 4 years as Secretary of State - traveling the world on behalf of Obama trying to right GWBs wrongs and rubbing elbows with the globe's top people of power.

28 years experience of knowing how things work. How things get gridlocked, and what compromises need to be made, and whose backs need to be scratched in order to get the big picture policy changes through.

At his very core Bernie is a good guy. His ideolgies align with mine in almost every way. But in order to get some spotlight time he had to go out on a limb and toss out some ideas that fired up his base, but wouldn't have stood a chance of getting through the House and Senate.

Fox Henhouse. It's really that simple.

So assuming that Clinton would have run into the same gridlock that Sanders would have, and Trump currently is, is completely naive.

Clinton Hate 101 Mr. Frown.
Yes yes everyone would have loved Hillary and it would be all roses for her if she won you have truly opened my eyes by repeating the same point (that she is part of the establishment) for the 300th time. I really get it now. You sir, are a smart man.
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