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Old 11-02-2017, 04:02 PM   #254 (permalink)
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Lou Reed is a terrible singer but he's more effective than the majority of other singers.
This goes back to what I said about how our musical sensibilities differ quite strikingly. Essentially, **** no

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It sounds 0% like Lulu.
In didn't mean it as a negative comparison though. It's fine if you disagree, but I really do find that some of the way some shrill, atonal guitar/violin noises relate to a certain Lou Reed vocal approach reminds me very much of some of what Hammett contributed to Lulu. It's what I'm hearing, anyway and I'm only talking about certain moments, certain nuances.

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To add to Elph's comments, the VU didn't particularly like Nico. Yes, she was pushed on them by Warhol and I'm sure she was relieved when they parted ways. She did make a nice album at the end of 1967.

I actually bought a copy of the album at the Salvation Army of all places with the banana peel still intact (of course dummy me peeled the banana off like an idiot). I think what makes the album so special is the contrast of the musical styles compared to the happier psychedelia of the period. While much of the music on the radio wanted you to get high and love life, VU was coming from a dark place with songs about pushers and needles. Maybe that's why it took years for people to really get into them.

Maybe some of it has to do with the later success Lou Reed had with his solo career. I don't think he was ever as good as he was with VU though. After Transformer and, with the exception of a couple of songs, he really doesn't do a lot for me.

But I think there was something special with Reed, Sterling Morrison, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker. Nico, admittedly, was more or less along for the ride, but I don't think she takes anything away from the album at all.
This is interesting. Maybe that's why her vocals (at least to me) seem weaker than usual. If she didn't even feel welcome there.

I do respect what the record and the band has done in terms of their place in musical history and their place in the continuum of influence on future artists, but like I said, I insist on listening to music as if it was released yesterday. Basically, historical importance is fine and all, but what is this album in 2017?

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