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27 | 45.76% |
The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967) |
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32 | 54.24% |
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It's understated and in your face at the same time.
It's experimentation is wild and unmatched for the time. I can't think if another album that sounds like it. The production is fine. Lou Reed is a terrible singer but he's more effective than the majority of other singers. The drone elements and percussion pulled from Theatre of Eternal Music. It sounds 0% like Lulu. The soft moments are very beautiful. The harder moments are raw as **** and have explosive energy.
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To add to Elph's comments, the VU didn't particularly like Nico. Yes, she was pushed on them by Warhol and I'm sure she was relieved when they parted ways. She did make a nice album at the end of 1967.
I actually bought a copy of the album at the Salvation Army of all places with the banana peel still intact (of course dummy me peeled the banana off like an idiot). I think what makes the album so special is the contrast of the musical styles compared to the happier psychedelia of the period. While much of the music on the radio wanted you to get high and love life, VU was coming from a dark place with songs about pushers and needles. Maybe that's why it took years for people to really get into them. Maybe some of it has to do with the later success Lou Reed had with his solo career. I don't think he was ever as good as he was with VU though. After Transformer and, with the exception of a couple of songs, he really doesn't do a lot for me. But I think there was something special with Reed, Sterling Morrison, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker. Nico, admittedly, was more or less along for the ride, but I don't think she takes anything away from the album at all. |
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![]() In didn't mean it as a negative comparison though. It's fine if you disagree, but I really do find that some of the way some shrill, atonal guitar/violin noises relate to a certain Lou Reed vocal approach reminds me very much of some of what Hammett contributed to Lulu. It's what I'm hearing, anyway and I'm only talking about certain moments, certain nuances. Quote:
I do respect what the record and the band has done in terms of their place in musical history and their place in the continuum of influence on future artists, but like I said, I insist on listening to music as if it was released yesterday. Basically, historical importance is fine and all, but what is this album in 2017? Last edited by MicShazam; 11-02-2017 at 04:14 PM. |
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I like the album quite a bit, but somewhat less so the second half, and while I no longer hate Nico as a dull, pretentious-sounding twat she's still not my favorite thing about the album. So it's not a flawless classic to me, but what's right about it is right as ****. I don't know about alternate tunings and whatever else are supposed to make this so experimental, but I love that it's the sound of what psychedelic rock could have sounded like in an alternate universe, and is remarkably less dated than a lot of that other stuff to boot. It's definitely garagey, but elevated by a hodgepodge of influences that meld seamlessly to create a very diverse tracklist of catchy, interesting songs that can rightfully be taken seriously but don't forget to be accessible as garage rock should be.
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it's Reed softening his vocals is all
a comment about all the "50's rock" you hear it's because Reed's guitar playing is like everything in his ethos, to the point, no chaser, pure as snow the appeal is that RocknRoll that straight is a gut punch, it's why he's more a godfather of punk than "old rock"
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Nah. He's an amazing singer because he communicates emotion so clearly despite his awful voice. It might sound silly but I don't even think his brilliance in that regard is even subjective. Virtuosity doesn't count for everything.
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On this album, I didn't feel it at all, but I do remember there being parts of the Lulu album where his vocals were strikingly raw and emotionally unguarded. I'm essentially saying I liked Reed far more on Lulu. At least on the better cuts. |
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Not many singers who make me picture the way their mouth moves when they sing quite as vividly as Lou Reed. No wonder he was a famous *******. No way someone with this much effortless attitude could be "one of the guys".
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I like the tone and texture of his voice a lot more on Lulu since he's aged and it's gotten raspy, but his vox on the VU cut deep.
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