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Old 03-07-2006, 04:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
Crowe
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Oh, dear.

Big. I was just pointing out a common mistake in the dialect/accent usage. When I was told the difference, I did not think that the person who told me was elitist. I also wasn't referring to just you when I made that remark, you seem to think it was a personal attack on you, when really I put it out there for everyone who was making the mistake. If I make a mistake like that, I would want someone to tell me so I did not continue making it.

I never questioned whether or not I wrote more than you. I do however write characters to be performed by people correctly, meaning I write in dialects and accents. Not only do I write in them, I also perform them. You do not wish to discuss qualifications on the subject anymore is because I have completely trumped your argument. You were wrong. It's fine. Nobody thinks less of you.

This is the SECOND TIME I'VE SAID THIS, so pay close attention. I did not REFUTE your arguments of the musical theory of country music because I thought you were spot on. That means I agreed with you. You are now searching for an argument where there is argument to be had. Like you are trying to save face.

I didn't ignore anything, why would I bring up something that you've already said and I agree with? That's trite and redundant. Jimmy Rodgers and the Carter family founded country music as a genre. I wasn't writing that for your approval, I was writing it as a fact. In my first post, I even agreed with you outright saying that country had roots in Celtic, blues, etc etc etc. I don't know why you think I am arguing with you about that. You clearly just didn't read carefully enough. Go back and look. You are pissed off because I said you looked like an elitist 4sshole. And you did, in my opinion. Before this subsequent argument, I did not think you were one, and was surprised that you would say something so blatantly ignorant. Which is why I pointed it out.

Why am I elitist for having the opinion that modern country is being stained by the new pop sound? Can you give me a reason why that is elitist? Just give me a good reason, and I'll re-evaluate the way I write it so it doesn't sound elitist. Because it isn't.


And just so you don't bring it up again, I will also reply to your last line...

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Im still looking at country as a musical style, born mostly outside of the US and focusing on slide instruments, sustained notes, and twang.
Hey, good point! I agree.

See how pointless that was me writing it out? It's a waste of forum space, and trite. If I never argued the point to begin with, I never disagreed with it.

Learn from your mistakes. Stop arguing when there is nothing left to argue about. We've agreed on the music theory, roots of country, and the fact that Rodgers and the Carters are the founders of the genre of country music. What else is there to argue about? I've settled the accent/dialect debate. I've never said I was better than you in ANYWAY, SHAPE, or FORM... stop assuming. I've actually gone as far to dissuade you from thinking that in my last post. The only thing in which I expressed superiority over you is the knowledge of the terms dialect and accent. That doesn't make you less of a person, it just means that I happen to have more knowledge in that field. NOT because I am from the South, but merely because I have been doing it for 14 years.

Got it, chief?

EDIT: I see where you got the, "I'm from Boston thing now" - Murder Junkie mentioned credibility of a NYC artist. I do not agree with that statement, and never have. MJ and I were only in agreeance in the fact that we liked Old School country, nothing more. This seems to be where the large part of the misunderstanding came from. So, knowing that now - we both should recognize that and take it into consideration
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