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Originally Posted by Oriphiel
Please don't use the Slippery Slope Logical Fallacy. It's like the defining fallacy of old dudes. "My word! If we let one of them into the country club, we'll have to let everyone in! My monocle just couldn't handle such tomfoolery!"
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^ Was I doing that? Yes, I guess you have a point.
TBH most of what I said about the name of the ban was me being facetious. None the less, the mods have loads of ban options I presume; ban for six months, ban for five years, etc. If they give fair warning and then announce a permaban, I don't think it helps the MB community to dispute that call, unless there is clear evidence of unfairness. The discipline aspect of modding is not easy and I think they deserve our support in their decisions. Should we really ask them to reconsider arguments that were made years ago? If I remember correctly, that was what pushed mega-mod Urban into leaving, after years of actively contributing to MB.
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It actually is possible for a ban to do more harm than good in the long run. Therefore, all bans, including ones intended by the mods to be permanent, should be scrutinized by the community.
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^ Can't really argue with this statement, but I can ask, How many times? And how much does it benefit the community to do it again and again?
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Originally Posted by Oriphiel
Elph, Polly, Fluff, WWWP, and I, would like to see Sansa and/or JWB back, as shown in the discussion.
Anyone mentioned above, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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^ Sansa and JWB were both pretty divisive members. Are we really being reduced to a head-count of the pro- and contra- camps? How is that promoting the good of the community?
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan
Just to be fair, the feeling I noticed from some mods are not very warm towards Sansa. Other than them I can't sense any major concerns coming from the general population of Music Banter. I don't know what the main concern of the objecting members are. I'm not sure whether these members are not fond of her or just want rules to be rules.
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^ She could make some pretty nasty, unprovoked attacks and was the reason that sk left, if anyone still remembers him. In fact, this is something of a flaw in Oriphiel's head-counting approach: it doesn't take into account the members who are NOT here, thanks to Sansa and JWB.