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Originally Posted by right-track
Forget the Velvet Underground, they were considered Avant Garde at the time. As for the New York Dolls, managed in 1975 by Malcolm McClaren who tried to revive a failing band repackaged them as born again communists, for the shock value, it failed.
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Right, they were considered Avant Garde because there was no name for what they were. And the New York Dolls '73 debut is far more Punk than anything McClaren did with them. I don't even see why you bothered to bring him up, when they'd already released a classic Punk album before he came along.
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Realising that shock value was gold, managed the Sex Pistols...safety pins, spikey hair, anarchy, anti establishment...the rest is history.
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So you're admitting that the "seminal" Punk band was just pre-packaged Punk, the very thing Punk supposedly rallies against?