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Originally Posted by Crowe
Ska Officianados (authors, musical historians) have accredited Ska's birth as the Jamaican interpretation of American Jazz and Big Band music and Ska was born as a response to the American influences, so you're argument is with them. I haven't said anything about Reggae being started in the US.
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We're talking about ska and reggae though, not jazz. I agree with what the historians (?) or whatever say, but the Americans still shouldn't take any mentionable credit for that music in this thread, that's my opinion. It is kind of interesting though, one of the most influential bands, The Specials, is from Britain. Most of the U.S. third wave pisses me off, but there are a few select bands that keep it traditional, that's all I care about.
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Sometimes I'm not very articulate. The Pixies were alternative. Sonic Youth was also alternative at the timie, but Daydream Nation - their best album - was generally accepted as an indie hit - and one of the best album's of the decade. Both of these bands had huge influences on the groups of today, and this is the stuff that influenced the playing styles of many emo groups and indie groups that we know. Because they grew up listening to it.
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Yeah but then again, anyone with any appreciation for music was listening to the Pixies and Sonic Youth at one point.
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Alternative didn't mean the same back then as it does now. It was merely a term used to describe music that wasn't mainstream. Indie, before the populace bastardized it, and turned it into a genre... meant the same thing - but it took the place of alt because alt had turned into a genre.
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Yes, but most genre's get 'bastardized' over time. Punk, emo, hardcore, ska...it almost seems like a natural process. There is a difference though. Indie seems to cover slightly more different styles than the term alternative did back in the 80s. Ahhh, I explained it better in the indie education thread.