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Old 04-03-2020, 08:55 AM   #5351 (permalink)
jwb
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
the US has the highest prison population in general no?

you win some you lose some

it's absolutely true I would never consider living in China, but then ofc it's great to inherit the riches that come from ultra aggressive imperialism
well, there are pros and cons to both yes but in terms of something like abuses of human rights or civil liberties I think it's pretty clear China is in a league of their own

The US incarceration rate is shameful but comparing us to China in that regard is tricky. China has a severely lower crime rate. They have a 99% conviction rate for crimes taken to trial. They don't include pre trial detainees and political prisoners in their official incarceration stats. They supposedly lead the world in executions by a large margin, though the exact number is a closely guarded state secret, as are so many other things in China surrounding their human rights record.

None of this is to excuse our own justice system, which as I said is insanely barbaric for a first world democracy.
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